This is a blog about the happenings on the tail end of Lazy Z Rd, Nederland CO. Not that I expect to report on high drama. No, rather, I like watching the weather play across Thorodin Mountain. Want to see what I'm seeing out my window (worth a look). Live. Click here --> LazyZ.Org <--
Tuesday, October 31, 2006
Magnolia Road famous for World Runners
I have reprinted the the article below, with a highlight of the most relevant part.
Consider one typical brisk Boulder morning in early October. Dathan Ritzenhein, 23, the United States’ latest prospect, prepared for his marathoning debut in the New York City Marathon on Nov. 5 by repeating 10 hill sprints. Alan Culpepper, 34, a fellow 2004 Olympian and University of Colorado alumnus, was running a suburb away.
“The marathon will be the first time I’ve raced Alan since my senior year in high school,” Ritzenhein said Oct. 9. “We live that close and we’re in the same sport, but our paths don’t cross. It’s kind of strange.”
Elsewhere, Japanese women peeled off matching cinnamon warm-ups and embarked on runs from the Boulder Reservoir. One of the women wordlessly passed a group of Kenyans on a 25-kilometer training run.
The Kenyans’ German coach, Dieter Hogen, barked encouragement, and the former marathon champion Uta Pippig echoed it, shouting, “Keep a good rhythm, guys!”
Hogen had once led Pippig out of East Germany and eventually to Boulder, coaching her to multiple marathon titles in the 1990s. She was barred for two years for failing a 1998 drug test that was later ruled inconclusive, and now she helps runners in Boston and Boulder.
Hogen runs Camp KIMbia, in operation since 2003. It may raise eyebrows for its isolation, but a few miles away Anuta Catuna of Romania was showing off her new house and pointing to one across the road that belonged to the 2000 Olympic women’s champion, Naoko Takahashi. Catuna, the bubbly 1996 New York champion who is trying to become a United States citizen for the 2008 Olympic trials, trains and socializes with other Romanian runners living in Boulder.
To old-timers, segregation is an unfortunate development. “I think all these guys are doing a disservice to each other,” said the South African marathoner Mark Plaatjes, who owns the Boulder Running Company, a small chain of shoe stores, and a physical therapy business. “They are missing out on the collective knowledge, the experiences.”
Frank Shorter, the American marathoner who popularized the sport by winning the gold medal in the 1972 Olympics and the silver in 1976, was the first to settle in Boulder.
“It was the only city with an indoor track at 5,000 feet,” he said in a telephone interview. “There were 10 committed runners in town, but I was the only real athlete training.”
Shorter set the pace. In 1987, Plaatjes came to raise his children without apartheid and to run with other champions: Steve Jones of Wales, Rob De Castella of Australia, Arturo Barrios of Mexico and Priscilla Welch of England.
“We used to meet at each other’s houses; there would be 30 guys and 20 countries represented,” Plaatjes said outside his store. “We’d go out for a run, beat each other up and then drink a beer afterwards.”
Collegiality now thrives in Boulder during the afternoon when the Africans drink chai together. Teamwork is paramount in daily chores or on the course, whether they train to set the pace or to win.
“It is very good to be in a group, because in training you need to simulate running,” said Thomas Nyariki, wearing sunglasses during an interview to protect his right eye, which was blinded in a 2003 carjacking in Kenya. He will race New York, having won the city’s half-marathon in August.
Hogen runs his camp with wry humor and unwavering discipline, coordinating runners’ workouts according to their marathons: Chicago, New York, Amsterdam, Frankfurt and Dallas.
The runners leave their families behind and immerse themselves with Hogen, “because of his experience; he knows how to train hard,” Nyariki said, adding, “We go two weeks hard, one week easy.”
Hogen founded the KIMbia (“to run” in Swahili) management company with Tom Ratcliffe, an agent based in Boston.
“These guys all have real good backgrounds,” Hogen said, explaining that he chooses runners who were not necessarily famous but had success at shorter distances. “They come with the thing you want to see — a commitment to working hard.”
A Mecca for Marathoners This year at Hogen’s camp, as many as 18 men and 2 women from Kenya and Tanzania have shared four apartments, which include facilities for physical therapy and laundry and, in one concrete backyard, a hot tub that overlooks an office park.
The athletes usually train twice a day. In the afternoon, they make their sugary milk tea in a spaghetti pot, watch television and play checkers in a living room decorated with prize plaques. At night, they cook ugali, a Kenyan stew poured over a cornmeal mixture.
Hogen said the camp had no secrets, and pointed out that it was featured on a Web site by a freelance writer (chasingkimbia.com). But the camp raises questions among some in Boulder because of Hogen’s connection with Pippig.
“The case was dismissed; they couldn’t prove anything, and that was the end of the story,” Pippig said, referring to her 1998 drug test. “And believe me — I couldn’t work with anyone if I did it.”
She added of the Kenyans, “For these guys, drugs play no role.”
Shorter, the former chairman of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said Hogen’s camp raised a general concern that foreign athletes went to Boulder to dodge testing.
“My only question would be: How often are the Kenyans training in Boulder tested?” Shorter said, urging marathon directors to control prerace testing. “You have to set up a system so you don’t have to be suspicious.”
Ratcliffe said his athletes were clean. They register their whereabouts with the International Association of Athletics Federations and can be subject to random testing by USADA and the World Anti-Doping Agency.
“I would love for them to come every day,” Ratcliffe said. “People see East German intrigue, but it’s just not the case.”
Ritzenhein said that distance running was not “that dirty of a sport,” and that no American distance runners used drugs. He said that he spoke of the topic daily with his Boulder teammates, the twins Jorge and Ed Torres (the three helped Colorado win the N.C.A.A. cross-country championship in 2001) and Jason Hartmann, a high school teammate from Rockford, Mich.
This year, the New York Road Runners donated $240,000 to support running camps in the United States, including $115,000 to one in Mammoth Lakes, Calif., where the Olympic medalists Meb Keflezighi and Deena Kastor train. Ritzenhein’s coach, Brad Hudson, a former distance runner at Oregon, received $45,000 for his Boulder Performance Training Group.
On training runs, Hudson follows Ritzenhein in a tan 1983 Volvo he bought last summer. Hudson does not accept money from Ritzenhein, he said, to eliminate conflicts of interest with sponsors.
But the allocation, filtered through USA Track and Field, caused some resentment. Steve Jones coaches a young group in Boulder that was not financed. He said he was frustrated because Ritzenhein already received sponsorship from Nike.
“I believe we need to work within reality,” Mary Wittenberg, the chief executive of the Road Runners said in a telephone interview in late October. “We are best served in funding kids coming out of college who have the best shot of winning gold medals. We’re beyond being just the best American now.”
America’s past looms in bronze at the base of Colorado’s Folsom Stadium. Every May, nearly 50,000 runners from around the world pass by a statue of Shorter on their way to the finish of the 10-kilometer Bolder Boulder. Shorter was a co-founder of the race in 1979, and it defined the city as an outdoor Mecca.
Alpinists, triathletes and mountain bikers train here, though perhaps not to the extremes of the running cult Divine Madness, whose members pool their earnings, live ascetically and run ultra races. “We’re not all like that,” Culpepper said.
Children seem to have inherited the running genes; Boulder High School’s cross-country team fielded 135 boys and girls for the second consecutive year.
Stickers convey Boulder’s maximum heart rate: “Don’t Die Wondering” and “Remember to Breathe.” The Go Fast energy drink truck rumbles through downtown.
Running utopia is not yet here. Mark Wetmore, the coach of the nationally ranked Colorado cross-country teams, limited the stadium’s public track hours to preserve its surface four years ago. With no central meeting place, elite runners do track work at different high schools. This makes Plaatjes dream.
“I want to buy a plot of land and build a clubhouse and have a training room, with trails out back,” he said. “A facility where there is a bar and a sitting area, like in Europe.
“I know this sounds corny,” he added, “but I really think, ‘If you build it, they will come.’ ”
But will they come at the same time?
.
Re: [puma-news] Magnolia mentioned in NY Times article
Good call Allen
It shouldn't be too hard to slow down for runners, cyclist, walkers, horses,
choldren etc
>From: Allen Gordon <gordona@mric.net>
>Reply-To: Allen Gordon <gordona@mric.net>
>To: Fay <fay@mric.net>
>CC: "'Greg Ching'" <greg.ching@mric.coop>, "'PUMA News'"
><puma-news@www.puma-net.org>
>Subject: Re: [puma-news] Magnolia mentioned in NY Times article
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:25:05 -0700
>
>Having run on Magnolia, the crown of the road makes it difficult to run on
>the sides--the slope of the road twists the ankles. Additionally, I've
>found that when approaching a blind curve, running on the inside of the
>curve can be dangerous because of the lack of visibility--thus making it
>safer to run with the traffic if that side is on the outside of the curve.
>Finally, I think there is a bit more traffic in Boulder than on Magnolia
>Rd. Perhaps the larger problem is how people drive on Magnolia Rd, not how
>people run. One problem that I've noticed is that people stop their cars
>in very inopportune places during times when kids are picked up for school.
> For example, many folks wait in their stopped cars at the top of the hill
>at Magnolia and Frontier in front of the mail boxes. Cars attempting to
>pass them have to drive blindly on the wrong side of the road not knowing
>if another car is approaching on the other side of the hill. Similarly at
>Pine Glade and Magnolia. Cars are stopped such that cars coming from Pine
>Glade onto Magnolia must do so with very limited visibility of approaching
>cars. Of course there are many who drive pretty fast exceeding the 30 mph
>speed limit. Those darn runners make it difficult to drive fast because
>they are either running in the middle of the road, on the wrong side or
>side by side.
>
>Allen
>
>Fay wrote:
>>Now if they could only learn to run against traffic, single file, and on
>>the
>>side (as opposed to the middle) of the road, they would all live long
>>enough
>>to compete! Funny, same rules they follow in Boulder but don't seem to
>>apply up here.
>>Fay Benson
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
>>[mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ching
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:30 AM
>>To: PUMA News
>>Subject: [puma-news] Magnolia mentioned in NY Times article
>>
>>I think most Magnolia residents know we have world class athletes training
>>on our road but it's still neat to see Magnolia mentioned in the NY Times.
>> The complete article can be found at
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/sports/othersports/31boulder.html?hp&ex=11
>>62357200&en=94ec7cc5b064ac1d&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>>
>>I'm only copying here the first few paragraphs...Magnolia mentioned in
>>third paragraph.
>>
>> greg
>>
>>October 31, 2006
>>In Boulder, Runners Gather in Guarded Isolation
>>By LIZ ROBBINS
>>
>>BOULDER, Colo. - Here at 5,430 feet, all roads lead to a finish line
>>somewhere. They just rarely converge.
>>
>>As the major marathon season hit its fall peak, professional distance
>>runners from Kenya, Japan, Romania and Tanzania, as well as the United
>>States, were pounding the dirt roads in Boulder for a high-altitude boost.
>>
>>Long a popular haven for elite athletes, the area boasts 300 sunny days a
>>year, 400 miles of trails (including Magnolia, which soars to 8,600 feet),
>>more massage therapists than muscles and a fervent outdoor culture.
>>
>>But this is no running utopia. Instead, Boulder is an example of the
>>fiercely competitive sport of road racing, in which runners train in quiet
>>isolation, passing one another occasionally on hills while guarding their
>>strategies.
>>
>>Competitors from around the world may come here, yet the various camps
>>operate in their own universes. With schedules dictated by agents, runners
>>compete not just for the podium, but for a relatively small pool of
>>resources, shoe contracts and race appearance fees. It is a scene that is
>>more clannish than collegial.
>>
>>
>>
>
Thursday, October 26, 2006
Earliest Heavy Snow Fall
We where somewhat lucky around here. The power did go out for about 7 hours, but I understand that things where much worse around Colorado Springs.
I got the x-c skis out and went up to Winiger Ridge. Somebody ( I think it was my neighbor Dave) had already put down a nice set of tracks. This ment I could lapse into the kick and glide rythem without having to break trail.
RE: [puma-news] power?
Did the power go out? ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
[mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ching
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:54 PM
To: puma-news@puma-net.org
Subject: Re: [puma-news] power?
Power just came back along Aspen Meadows!
I agree. Between the Amendment 37 rebates and Federal tax credits solar
electric is more affordable than ever. With the cost of electricity
rising and gas/propane prices soaring the breakeven analysis gets
better. Even if you got a minimal system you could still have a battery
backup system for your essential appliances.
For example, at my all electric house, we couldn't run the major
appliances such as range, microwave, dishwasher, furnace, hot water
heater but we were able to run our refrigerator for a number of hours.
And we were never out of lights/computers/internet/telephones and other
smaller appliances. Our cistern pump was also backed up so we had
water, too.
There are several homes up along Magnolia who have solar battery backup
systems. If you need guidance we can provide it.
Solar hot water, better insulation, compact fluorescent light bulbs, and
replacing older appliances are other areas of savings that may provide
better ROI than photovoltaic. However, the convenience factor of having
battery backup makes working at home much more practical.
greg
bwarre01@pol.net wrote:
> Time to go to solar power!!!
>
> Barbara Warren, Twin Sisters Road
>
>
>
>> 2 hrs here as well on Cumberland Gap off of CR 68
>>
>> Paul DeLong
>> Accuer, Inc.
>> 1942 Broadway, Ste. 208
>> Boulder, CO 80302
>> Ph 303-323-4296 x4
>> Fax 303-323-4297
>> Cell 303-859-0052
>> www.accuer.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
>> [mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Clark Chapman
>> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:00 AM
>> To: puma-news@puma-net.org
>> Subject: [puma-news] power?
>>
>>
>> We've been without power for 2 hours on
>> Lazy Z. Curious about how widespread this
>> is and whether there are any indications
>> of when it might be fixed.
>>
>> Clark Chapman
>> 11 am Thurs.
>
>
Thursday, October 12, 2006
[puma-news] thefts
Hi,
Just want to let everyone know that there is still some theft activity going on. Last week, someone went through our truck (& the neighbor’s car) looking for valuables. Luckily, we don’t keep anything of value in our cars; I wish they’d cleaned mine out. This was sometime between 2 & 4:30 am, which we know because the dog was barking hysterically. I think that may be what convinced the thief to move on, before checking out the storage shed, etc.
The deputy said there are still break-ins happening in the mountain areas, although activity seems to have slowed a bit. Most previous activity has been during the day, so this may be a slight change in M.O., or another thief.
Anyway, be aware.
Vivian
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
[puma-news] Documentary on firefighters
http://tinyurl.com/owo5a
The History Channel has made a documentary on firefighters in this country.
It airs at 6PM on 10/13 and 2PM on 10/22.
Over 70% of firefighters in this country are volunteers. Most of Magnolia
Road is served by High Country Fire Department, which has no paid
firefighters. The bottom two miles (or so) of Magnolia are served by
Sugarloaf and the extreme western end is Nederland Fire's district. There
are never enough volunteers, so we often are called for "mutual aid". HCFD
has responded to structure fires for both Nederland and Sugarloaf in the
last month. Luckily, we haven't had one of our own (knock on my wooden
noggin'!).
I must say that what I've seen of this documentary is surprisingly
realistic. If you've ever wondered what it's like, or why people volunteer
to be firefighters, it's worth watching.
There are numerous clips and interviews at the website linked above.
If anyone reading this is interested in becoming a High Country firefighter,
the easiest way is to call Sheila at 303-642-3588. If you aren't sure, and
have questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them, or refer you to someone
who can answer them.
If you want to help your neighbors, it's what we do.
John,
~ the chart guy
John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!
www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com
PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA
800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
303.440.0147 (fax)
Monday, October 09, 2006
Frozen Spider Web Day
But the most beautiful thing is when the spider webs are suddenly all made visible when they are coated in ice. Each delicate stand is suddenly dozens of times thicker than itself because it has been enveloped in a coat of ice.
Usually, this only happens once a year because the same frost that coats the webs also kills the spiders.
So much till next year.
Sunday, August 20, 2006
Birth of a hummingbird
Well here is a sequence of pictures of hummingbirds from eggs to fledglings.
It is truly amazing. Be sure to click on NEXT PAGE at the bottom of each page; there are 5 pages in all. A lady found a hummingbird nest and got pictures all the way from the egg to leaving the nest. Took 24 days from birth to flight. Because it's a special series to see in your lifetime , enjoy; and please share.
Birth of a hummingbird
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
Climbed Arapahoe Peak
Of course I had to take pictures: http://arapahoepeak.forsytherock.com
After getting to the top of South Arapahoe Peak, I decided that I finally had the time to climb on over to North Arapahoe Peak. The only way to get there is along a long semicircle knife edge that connects the South to the North Peak. The pictures tell the story.
Camping in the neighborhood.
Dolphins Watching in the Florida Keys
Here's what he came up with:
Now he's all excited about getting more of his videos out too!
Friday, July 21, 2006
Eagle - Golden or Bald
Monday, July 10, 2006
The bear came back
Its time to bear proof the feeders. A neighbor says this particular bear is pretty harmless, but I still don't need a visit from a large mammel with sharp teeth and claws. It just messes with my delusion that I'm the top of the food chain to much.
House Wren hatchlings are getting ready to fledge
Sunday, July 02, 2006
Bear Alert
Well, today I had a up close and personal experience when I discovered a 400 lbs bear perched on a railing, slobering up sugar water from a hummingbird feeder.
Moments after I took this short video, I used loud noise scared him away.
Wednesday, May 24, 2006
Spring Cleaning in the Rockies
Monday, May 15, 2006
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
Spring Arrives with a Loud Boing!
A quick look outside showed a bluebird sitting in the snow with a chunk of snow stuck in his half open beak. This bluebird certainly did NOT look happy.
In fact, I knew from past experience that such a stunned bird can easily slip into shock, especially when sitting on snow!
So we got out a box. But the confused bluebird had other ideas. As Rachel approached, it jumped from its spot on the snowy ledge right below the window into Rachel’s hair. He had the right idea, since her head was a lot warmer then the snow.
Rachel walked inside with the blue bird hanging on.

After this picture was taken, Rachel lowered her head into a large box until so we could get the bluebird to jump into the box. Then we put a blanket over th box so that the poor bird could rest and regain his composure.
About half an hour later, we heard scratching coming from the box. Rachel took the box outside and the bluebird, now his happy normal self, took of for the sky.
Birds arrive this time of year from their annual migration. Sometimes, the learning curve in their new environment can be a little steep. I've actually seen bluebirds repeatedly attack their own reflection in the window as they attempt to establish their new territory. I hope that this bluebird learned that he is no threat to himself as long as he does not do battle with his own reflection!
May we all find our happiness by learning that it does not serve us to battle with ourselves. Food for thought.
Wednesday, April 19, 2006
Latest funny videos, images, games & silliness
Latest funny videos, etc
PS. I'd love to put their little widget here for doing this automatically, but blogger does not allow javasript.
Thursday, March 23, 2006
Massive Elk Invasion
Tuesday, March 14, 2006
[puma-news] plants website
I'm glad you listened and finally put up that site Thankyou.
Here's the announcement email.
Dear Friends,
Dan finally succeeded, and here is the first part of this project. He
made me do it --- otherwise I'm sure I'd still be talking about it ten
years from now. Anyway, It isn't finished, probably never will be, and
it may contain inaccuracies which I hope to correct as time goes by. I'm
only up to the Mint family, and have to go all the way to Violet. I
think the Noxious Plant part is pretty much done. We plan to add a color
guide, but haven't gotten to it yet.
As you will notice, the accompanying text isn't in scientific jargon.
This is for two reasons. 1) I can't seem to stay serious, and 2) Dan
said he thought it would be more useful to more people if it isn't
strictly scientifically rigorous.
So, here's a beginning! Thanks to all of you who requested this. Send
me any comments, pro or con, that you wish. I'm moving to Africa now.
http://www.plantsofmagnolia.net
Best,
Jennifer
Saturday, March 11, 2006
[puma-news] Comments on USFS Rural School land sale
Wednesday, March 08, 2006
[puma-news] Land Sales Initiative in Boulder County
To Whom It May Concern:
County Road 68) for 18 years, I feel obligated to speak out against your
land sale proposal (Land Sales Initiative in Boulder County). First of
all, let me express my disappointment in the limited time that has been
alloted for community feedback, as well as the cumbersome and poorly done
online map provided as a resource for this comment period.
inaccuracies due to difficulty of interpretation of online map ):
Township 1S Range 72W
Section 19 - 40 acres
Section 20 - 193 acres Map shows 233)
Section 21 - 160 acres
Section 40 - 40 acres (Map shows 200 acres)
Total Acreage: 473 in the list, 633 on the map
natural movement corridors for ungulates (specifically elk), bear, mountain lion,
bobcat, fox and coyote. Increased disturbance as a result of
development, will undoubtedly increase the stress on the species living in these
something as seemingly well intentioned like funding for rural schools,
is a disgrace. Once these lands are sold, it is rather evident that new
ones will be proposed in the name of some other manipulative cause. The
justification for selling them as "not being able to be sufficiently
managed" speaks volumes as to priorities. Instead, might it be a better
choice to consider something much greater than ourselves, the need for
space for all the non-human creatures that exist here and to offer ways
to conserve that space. No matter how small or seemingly insignificant
these lands might appear on a map, they all serve an important and necessary
function for wildlife and native plant species.
even the smallest bits and pieces of land that have been set aside such
as our nation's Roosevelt National Forest, along with wildlife, we as a society
suffer. If anything, as a People, we should be doing everything we can
to protect and preserve by purchasing additional lands not selling them off.
Forest for the future generations, it is time to act in a thoughtful,
visionary way that holds the faith of the public that our National
Forests will remain the last haven for that herd of elk that passes
through on its journey to summer grounds, seven generations from now.
these lands listed above, as well as all others being considered.
72 Meadowland Ct., Nederland, CO
(303) 449-1789
Monday, March 06, 2006
Instantly transport yourself to a ridge right next to the continental divide
But let me digress for just a moment.
A few years ago, I used to live in a town outside Boulder Colorado called Niwot. There's a lot of history that goes with the name that I won't get into right here. But suffice it to say that living in the town of Niwot endeared me to the name. There's another Niwot around as well. In fact, I and a somewhat supernatural experience right at the base of the other Niwot, which is Niwot Rigdge. Again, I'm trying to not get of on to many tangents.
Anyway, I've had a few enjoyable hikes up on Niwot Ridge. I've never gotten all the way to the end of it, and I've always wondered what the view from there would be. Well, (my point, finally) I now have a way to visit the far western end of Niwot Ridge any time I want.
You see, they've got a web cam up there.
So What? I've got a webcam right here at Lazy Z Web Cam.
But this is not just any old web cam.
No.
You'll get a kick out of it. This is a fully weather proofed pan and tilt cam. This means that you an look ALL around and zoom in and out as well.
Really. Try it. Click the link. Niwot Ridge Web Cam
Thanks Niwot Ridge LTER for making this available to us all!
[puma-news] Hopefully helpful map plus coordinates
Here is more info. I have given local descriptions to the parcels in hopes of clarifying locations.
Also, here is Dave Hallock's input on Magnolia parcels: My editorial comments are in italics.
Magnolia Road
Township 1S Range 72W
Section 19 - 40 acres {I, Jennifer, believe he means Section 15, not 19. It would include the Turtle Rock, Range Road, and (Bennett/Spangler Parcels. My estimate shows 200 acres. Descriptions: Turtle Rock Parcel - NE1/4 of NE1/4 of Section 15, T1S, R72W; Range Road Parcel - NE1/4 of SW1/4, NW1/4 of SE1/4, and SW1/4 of SE1/4 of Sectrion 15, T1S, R72W; Bennet/Spangler Parcel - NW1/4 of NW1/4 of Section 15, T1S, R72W.)
Section 20 - 193 acres Map shows 233. (Reynolds Open Space and Loop Trails Parcel. Descriptions: Reynolds Open Space - SE1/4 of Section 20, irregular pieces of SW1/4 of Section 20, T1S, R72W. Loop Trail Parcel - NE1/4 of NW1/4 of Section 20, T1S, R72W.)
Section 21 - 160 acres ( Lazy z Parcel, 40 acre parcel southwest of Boy Scout Trails, and Rt 97 Parcel. Descriptions - Boy Scout Parcel - NW1/4 of NE1/4 of Section 21, T1S, R72W. Lazy z Parcel - SE1/4 of NE1/4 of Section 21, T1S, R72W. Rt. 97 Parcel - SW1/4 and SE1/4 of SE1/4 of Section 21, T1S, R72W.)
Section 40 - 40 acres (Map shows 200 acres) (Sections only go from 1 to 36, so I'm not sure what he means.)
Total Acreage: 473 in the list, 633 on the map
Values and Conservation Context: These lands are part of an elk/wildlife movement corridor between Winiger Ridge and lands west of the Peak-to-Peak Highway, and within elk winter range. They are designated as an Overland Habitat Connector on the Environmental Conservation Areas map of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan. Some of the parcels (those in Sections 19, 20, and a portion of 21) are adjacent to Reynolds Ranch Open Space and other County Open Space acquisitions in the area. Some of the parcels in all four sections are adjacent to other National Forest lands. The parcels in Section 19 south of Nederland contain public trails.
Me speaking again ---
Our local concerns are with our elk habitat, fragmentation of habitat for birds and small mammals, including bobcats, plus our personal reasons for living here.
Funding for rural schools needs to come from a source more consistant than a one-time land sale of parcels that have local importance to their surrounding communities and wildlife.
All our parcels are in T1S, R72W. When referring to them, you must also use the description I have listed for each, i.e., SW1/4 of NW1/4, etc, including the Section number and Township and Range.
I really couldn't send out a smaller map, so I apologize to anyone whose computer burps and falls over. Dan says the official maps from USFS, etc, are "junk." What ridiculously cumbersome mapping programs!
Please also read Dave Halleck's complete comments in Scott's email about USFS Secure Rural Schools Land Sales Initiative. And, for extra oomph, follow the "discussions" on Puma-news!
Best to all,
Jennifer
Here are people to contact, including the USFS email address:
Senator Wayne Allard
Washington D.C. telephone 202-224-5941
District telephone 303-220-7414
Senator Ken Salazar
Washington D.C. telephone 202-224-5852
District telephone 303-455-7600
Rep. Mark Udall
Washington D.C telephone 202-225-2161
District Office telephone 303-650-7820
SRS_Land_Sales@fs.fed.us
[puma-news] land sale
I was concerned, when I first wrote, that this had slipped under the radar, even of PUMA news-readers, but I see that has changed.
I think Dave Hallock’s assessment is a very valid one for this area, in terms of the overall picture of the value of small parcels of national forest. One does have to look at the surrounding land ownership, animal migration patterns and other uses of the land to assess whether there is more value to a small portion of national forest than appears on the map. It was also quite obvious, from the original map Dan sent out, that some of the ‘small parcels’ are actually contiguous with larger parcels and those ‘small parcels’ are what provide access to the larger portion of national forest (note how many parcels cross or touch roads). The next round of land sales will probably put those larger parcels on the block, because they are inaccessible. When you consider management & maintenance expense, be aware that many of these parcels have just been ‘maintained’, at considerable expense to the taxpayers. Many of the parcels marked for sale are the same parcels, which were just thinned (over many objections- including the USFS track record of cutting & running), and which the USFS promised to monitor and use as models for further projects. Is it any wonder that many of us have little faith in the judgment of the USFS.
Terry is right that our National Forest is our land for the future. If there were truly a good reason for selling certain parcels to gain other parcels, which would add to the value of the forest, as a whole, then it may make sense to sell certain parcels. This issue is not a matter of forest management, no matter what whitewash the USFS uses; the National Forest does not even get the money.
The issue here is whether we should sell our land to fund our schools. What are we leaving for our children? Our schools should be funded by our taxes. If we weren’t spending so much in Iraq or on “congressional pork”, perhaps we could afford to fund our schools. Should we sell the Lincoln memorial to the Chinese to fund school lunches? Or, perhaps we could sell the White House to raise money for Social Security… The point is we shouldn’t be selling off our precious, finite forests to make up for budget shortfalls. This is what I meant by lambasting the proposal.
This has not yet been approved by Congress, so write your Senators and Congressmen. If enough voices speak out, we might actually be heard.
Vivian
[puma-news] Fw: [nature-net] USFS Secure Rural Schools Land Sales Initiative
This commetary is preliminary. From Dave Hallock of the County Open Space
research and management...Dave has worked alongside PUMA on many previous
projects. He is a top notch scientist and intelligent analyst. Below are
his initial comments regarding the Forest Service proposed land sales --
PUMA should study this as a way to build our own commentary. By the way,
the previous email regarding the map of land sales still has some
innaccuracies and problems, due mostly to inaccuracies and inconsistencies
in FS data. On that map web page are some additional comments regarding
this proposed sale. Letters, call, emails and faxes should start to go out
from willing participants and PUMA as a whole by the end of this week.
Here's a preliminary list of contacts for those who would like to get
started.
Their numbers are:
Senator Wayne Allard
Washington D.C. telephone 202-224-5941
District telephone 303-220-7414
Senator Ken Salazar
Washington D.C. telephone 202-224-5852
District telephone 303-455-7600
Rep. Mark Udall
Washington D.C telephone 202-225-2161
District Office telephone 303-650-7820
Comments on the proposed list must be received by March 30 and may be sent
by e-mail to SRS_Land_Sales@fs.fed.us. Written comments may be sent to: USDA
Forest Service, SRS Comments, Lands 4S, 1400 Independence Ave., SW, Mailstop
1124, Washington, DC, 20250-0003. Send faxed comments to (202) 205-1604.
Hallock's letter below.
Scott
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Scott Campbell Reuman
Artist/Writer
Conundrum Designs, Inc.
Nederland, CO
http://www.conundrumdesigns.com
scottreuman@conundrumdesigns.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "David H Hallock" <eldoradh@rmi.net>
To: "BCNA Nature Net" <nature-net@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: [nature-net] USFS Secure Rural Schools Land Sales Initiative
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Secure Rural Schools Land Sales Initiative in Boulder County
These are my initial comments on the proposed land sale in Boulder County.
I have focused on land use issues.
Dave Hallock
Background
The Forest Service is seeking comments from all interested individuals and
organizations on the list of National Forest System land parcels in the FY
2007 President's Budget proposal to be sold for the purpose of funding
payments to Secure rural Schools. These funds will be used to offset
declining revenues that historically were derived from timber sales.
Comments should be submitted by March 30, 2006. They should pertain to the
list of land parcels proposed for sale. Comments should be submitted by
e-mail to SRS_Land_Sales@fs.fed.us, by facsimile to (202) 205-1604, or by
mail to USDA Forest Service, SRS Comments, Lands 4S, 1400 Independence Ave.,
SW., Mailstop 1124, Washington, DC 20520-0003. Electronic submission is
preferred.
Additional information about the Secure Rural Schools Land Sales Initiative
can be found at: http://www.fs.fed.us/land/staff/disposal.html. For maps of
the lands proposed for sale, go to:
http://www.fs.fed.us/land/staff/rural_schools.shtml. Go into
Geocommunicator.gov for the maps. (Note: the Geocommunicator.gov map site
had been problematic in correctly running and pulling up the maps).
Land Sales Initiative in Boulder County
The parcels proposed for sale in Boulder County lie within 10 geographic
areas, which I have used for description below. The spreadsheet list of
parcels on the USFS web site totals approximately 2,120 acres, while the map
indicates approximately 3,120 acres. And, there are some discrepancies on
the list between the legal descriptions and the acreages.
The overall justification for selling these parcels by the Forest Service is
that they are isolated from other contiguous National Forest System lands,
and because of their location, size, or configuration are not efficient to
manage as a component of the National Forest System. The isolation and
small size for some of the parcels appears true, but not for all.
My greatest concern is that there appears to be no recognition of the
conservation context of the parcels. When you look at all conserved lands
in western Boulder County, including Boulder County Open Space and other
private conservation easements (including some held by Colorado Open Lands
and The Nature Conservancy), then these parcels appear isolated and small
only in terms of ownership but not in terms of function. Some of the
parcels border Caribou Ranch Open Space, Reynolds Ranch Open Space, and Hall
Ranch Open Space. Some of the parcels are adjacent to lands with
conservation easements, such as Arapaho Ranch Wildlife Preserve and the
Welch Ranch. In some places, Boulder County Open Space has been filling in
the gaps between smaller parcels of Forest Service Land by purchasing the
intervening mining claims, such as on Spencer Mountain in Eldora and in
Lefthand Canyon. Two of the parcels have the Peak-to-Peak Scenic Byway
running through them, including one in Allenspark. Several parcels along
Magnolia Road are important wildlife movement corridors as are parcels near
the top of Spencer and Ute Mountains near Eldora. One group of parcels
appears to contain golden eagle nest sites and is popular for rock climbing
in Boulder Canyon. Another parcel contains a portion of the South St. Vrain
Creek and a portion of the South St. Vrain trail. Several of the parcels
near Nederland contain trails.
The result of this land sale is an increased fragmentation of the landscape.
The County and other property owners and land trusts have been filling in
the gaps within the National Forest Boundary and conserving lands; this is
good ecosystem planning This proposal creates new in-holdings within the
overall conservation context of western Boulder County; this is bad
ecosystem planning.
Additionally, the process appears very rushed. We have one month to make
comments for something that has some significant long-term land use impacts.
And it has not been easy accessing the Forest Service maps on their web
site. And there are discrepancies between the legal descriptions on the
USFS list and acreages, as well as what is presented on the maps.
What follows are geographic area descriptions of the parcels proposed for
sale, their conservation context, and some of their conservation value. The
geographic area descriptions are mine. When commenting to the Forest
Service you need to use National Forest Name (Roosevelt),
Township/Range/Section.
Magnolia Road
Township 1S Range 72W
Section 19 - 40 acres
Section 20 - 193 acres Map shows 233)
Section 21 - 160 acres
Section 40 - 40 acres (Map shows 200 acres)
Total Acreage: 473 in the list, 633 on the map
Values and Conservation Context: These lands are part of an elk/wildlife
movement corridor between Winiger Ridge and lands west of the Peak-to-Peak
Highway, and within elk winter range. They are designated as an Overland
Habitat Connector on the Environmental Conservation Areas map of the Boulder
County Comprehensive Plan. Some of the parcels (those in Sections 19, 20,
and a portion of 21) are adjacent to Reynolds Ranch Open Space and other
County Open Space acquisitions in the area. Some of the parcels in all four
sections are adjacent to other National Forest lands. The parcels in
Section 19 south of Nederland contain public trails.
Ridge Road
Township 1S Range 72W
Section 5 - 117 acres
Section 8 - 160 acres
Total Acreage: 277 acres on both list and map
Values and Conservation Context: In section 8, lands are adjacent to Rogers
Open Space and are part of the Open Corridor designation for Boulder Canyon
Highway (Boulder County Comprehensive Plan Open Space Element). Several of
the parcels in Section 5 are adjacent to USFS lands.
Caribou Ranch
Township 1N Range 73W
Section 34 - 30 acres
Section 36 - 80 acres (Map shows 160 acres)
Township 1S Range 73W
Section 1 - 20 acres
Total: 130 acres on list, 210 acres on map
Values and Conservation Context: These lands are integral parts of the
Caribou Ranch montane parkland, an area of exceptional biodiversity in
Boulder County, and winter, transitional range, and calving grounds for elk.
The lands in Sections 34 and 36 are within the Indian Peaks Environmental
Conservation Area, as designated on the Environmental Conservation Area Map
of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan. The parcel in Section 34 is
totally surrounded by other conserved lands, including Boulder County Open
Space, City of Boulder, other Forest Service lands, and a conservation
easement on the only mining claim in the section. A portion of the lands in
Section 36 (E1/2 of SE ¼) is adjacent to other conserved lands (Conservation
Easement on Caribou Ranch) and other Forest Service lands. It contains an
existing trail along the Switzerland Trail railroad grade. A portion of the
lands in Section 36 (E1/2 of SE ¼) are adjacent to other conserved lands
(Caribou Ranch Conservation Easement) and are important for elk winter range
and as a movement corridor. The parcel in Section 1 is adjacent to the
Peak-to-Peak Scenic Byway.
Eldora
Township 1S Range 73W
Section 20 - 20 acres (Map shows all USFS lands in Section 20, which are
approximately 300 acres)
Total: 20 acres on list, approximately 300 acres on map
Values and Conservation Context: This is part of the entrance to the Indian
Peaks Wilderness Area, so the viewshed is of importance. Boulder County
Open Space has been acquiring many of the intervening mining claims on
Spencer Mountain. The ridgeline atop Spencer and Ute Mountains is an
important wildlife movement corridor. Portions of the parcels slated for
sale are adjacent to other Forest Service lands. Lands north of Middle
Boulder Creek are within the Indian Peaks Conservation Area, as designated
on the Environmental Conservation Area Map of the Boulder County
Comprehensive Plan.
Boulder Canyon to Sugarloaf Road and Sugarloaf Road East
Township 1N Range 72W
Section 25 - 120 acres
Section 35 - 240 acres
Section 36 - 240 acres (the legal in the list does not match the acreage,
which matches the map)
Township 1N Range 71W
Section 29 - 120 acres
Total: 720 acres on both list and map
Values and Conservation Context: Sections 35 and 36 are part of the scenic
backdrop to Boulder Canyon Highway and designated as an Open Corridor on the
Open Space Plan of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan. The eastern
portion of Section 36 is within potential golden eagle nesting habitat (and
within the Wildlife Closure Area). There are popular rock climbing areas in
Section 36 (Security Risk). Portions of the parcels in Sections 35 and 36
are adjacent to Boulder Falls Open Space and within the Boulder Falls
Natural Area, as designated within the Boulder County Environmental
Resources Element of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan.
Nederland
Township 1S Range 73W
Section 14 - 40 acres (Map shows 120 acres)
Total: 40 acres on list, 120 acres on Map
Values and Conservation Context: The NE ¼ of the SE ¼ of Section 14 is
adjacent to and functionally part of the Arapaho Ranch Wildlife Preserve, a
montane parkland that has exceptional biodiversity. The Arapaho Ranch is
under a conservation easement with Colorado Open Lands. Elk use the area as
transitional range and for calving. The parcel provides a buffer between
the Town of Nederland and the Arapaho Ranch. The parcel is designated
within the Indian Peaks Environmental Conservation Area on the Environmental
Resources Map of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan.
Lefthand Canyon
Township 1N Range 72W
Section 1 - 240 acres
Total: 240 acres on list and map
Values and Conservation Context: Portions of these parcels are adjacent to
other National Forest lands on their north and west sides. Boulder County
Open Space has purchased almost all the mining claims within Section 1, as
well as other lands to the east and south. Lefthand Canyon is designated as
an Open Corridor on the Open Space Map of the Boulder County Comprehensive
Plan. Lands north of Lefthand Canyon Road are designated as part of the
Walker Mountain Environmental Conservation Area, as designated on the
Environmental Conservation Area Map in the Boulder County Comprehensive
Plan.
Overland Road and South St. Vrain
Township 2N Range 72W
Section 20 - 40 acres
Section 21 - 40 acres (80 acres are shown on the map)
Section 29 - 40 acres
Section 30 - 40 acres
Total: 160 acres on list, 200 acres on map
Values and Conservation Context: The parcel in Section 20 is adjacent to the
Peak-to-Peak Scenic Byway and is also adjacent to conservation easement
lands held by Boulder County and The Nature Conservancy. The South St.
Vrain Creek flows through the northwest corner of the parcel, designated as
an Open Corridor on the Open Space Map the Boulder County Comprehensive
Plan. The two parcels in Section 21 are adjacent to Conservation Easement
held by The Nature Conservancy. The Peak-to Peak Scenic Byway runs through
the parcel in Section 29. The parcel in Section 30 contains a portion of
the South St. Vrain Creek, designated as an Open Corridor on the Open Space
Map of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan; this parcel also contains the
beginning of the South St. Vrain trail.
Allenspark
Township 3N Range 73W
Section 26 - 40 acres (120 acres shown on the map)
Total: 40 acres on list, 120 acres on map
Values and Conservation Context: The Peak-to-Peak Scenic Byway passes
through one of the parcels in Section 26. The parcel in the SE ¼ of the SW
¼ is adjacent to other National Forest lands.
Coffintop Mountain
Township 3N Range 71W
Section 21 - 40 acres (360 acres are shown on the map)
Total: 40 acres on list, 360 acres on map
Values and Conservation Context: These are some of the most important
ecological lands in Boulder County, being within the North St. Vrain
Ecological Conservation Area (Ecological Conservation Area Map, Boulder
County Comprehensive Plan), and designated as Core Habitat in the Forest
Plan. These lands are adjacent to Hall Ranch Open Space and Riverside Ranch
Open Space, and are adjacent to other National Forest lands on their south
side. This is habitat for bighorn sheep.
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Saturday, March 04, 2006
[puma-news] map of USFS parcels for sale
Neighbors --
I've tried to put together some maps that show the
parcels for sale in ways that may help you better
visualize where they are.
www.boulder.swri.edu/clark/magngoo.jpg
is an aerial image of our neighborhood from Google
Earth, stretching from Barker Reservoir on the left
to the intersection of CR-68 and Aspen Way on the
right. To the top are sections along Ridge Road
north of Boulder Canyon Rd. To the lower left are
regions around Tungsten Mountain, southwest of
Giggey pond. The darker areas are forested.
www.boulder.swri.edu/clark/magnsale.jpg
is from the official government web site, showing
a crude map of the roads. Light green areas are
existing USFS lands. Hatched regions bordered in
dark green are suggested for sale. The individual
squares are a quarter-mile on a side.
www.boulder.swri.edu/clark/magnmrg.jpg
is a merger of the two previous views. The overlap
isn't perfect, but it can help you compare the
land-sale sites with natural features.
The rightmost box is the portion that the Pine Glade
neighborhood surrounds. To its left is a portion
that includes the northern slopes of the high
point reached, for instance, from Boy Scout Trails
that has a glorious view of the Divide.
The 3 contiguous parcels to the south of the last
two are just east of Deadman's Curve and just south
of Scott Reuman's, a section of forest that PUMA
volunteers helped to document as part of the
Winiger Ridge Project. Two more parcels abut
the intersection of Lazy Z and Magnolia. West of
them is a block that contains the high hill
surrounded by hiking/mountain bike trails (and
an unused USFS road) that is very popular.
Many more for-sale parcels are in the Tungsten
Mountain vicinity, and northeast of Nederland
in the vicinity of Ridge Road. Of course, many
other large parcels of interest are off the
map, such as enormous parcels between St. Mary's
glacier and James Peak.
Most of these parcels are, in fact, contiguous
with large stretches of existing USFS lands.
Clark Chapman
Sunday, February 26, 2006
For all those train buffs out there
Anyway, it turns out that he had taveled all the way from Italy (if memory serves) just to take video of trains.
Well, this is for all those train buffs out there.
Yes it was snowing and my friend walking by on her maiden snowshoe walk was an interesting sideline.
BTW, a minor gripe I have with Google videos is that they don't seem to tell you when your video has been approved. You just have to go back and check and at some point it just shows up. Still, its a great service since they take care of all the details about putting video on the web.
Sunday, February 19, 2006
Always keep good notes
"The faintest ink is more powerful than the strongest memory"
This certainly applies to keeping track of what you might be doing on the internet.
Just today, I found a domain that had slipped through the cracks after the ordeal detailed at
So if you aren't just on the internet for pure entertainment, keep notes!
Note: keep notes.
Tuesday, February 14, 2006
Google hosts my video for free
Google also provides code that you can paste right into a site, or even this blog. So here it goes...
Cool! It works! Now you can enjoy the same view of the snow dragons that I get to see out my widow. "Snow Dragons" are my name for the huge waves of blowing snow that we get as the wind blows the snow of the trees after a snow fall.
PS. I admit, I added the blowing wind sound track. It just "looks" better with the sound of the wind!
Wednesday, February 08, 2006
Top 10 uses for paper bags
Top 10 uses for paper bags
Monday, February 06, 2006
A variation on the paper bag them
Paper Bags vs ___
Sunday, February 05, 2006
Paper Bag crafts
Use them in crafts projects.
You'd be amazed at all the different animal shapes you can make out of paper bags
Check out Paper Bag Crafts
Saturday, February 04, 2006
Paper or plastic?
http://www.paperbagsfyi.com/
And I'm not done yet. More soon.
Wednesday, February 01, 2006
Cats and Bags
. Take a look. Can you tell I like cats?
Monday, January 23, 2006
Now I know what ssh-scan does
I finally found out from a friend of mine that goes by the handle "tech guru" what ssh-scan does. It is a tool used for DOS attacks. What this means in plain English is that it is used to send a lot of requests to a targeted website. The targeted website becomes overwhelmed and basically stops working.
Evidently, hackers use ssh-scan to shut down a trageted website for "fun" or profit.
Thursday, January 12, 2006
[puma-news] Crutches to borrow
Hi All,
Does anyone out there have a pair of crutches for a person about 5'7"
that we could borrow for about six weeks?
Jennifer
Wednesday, January 11, 2006
Warning about hosting with Canaca
Come to think of it, I did have that kind of interaction once in person. However, it was also a special case in that the individual did not speak english very well. And perhaps my german accent got in the way too.
Any way, you can read my experience and my fair warning at http://www.canaca-sucks.com
- Mike
Thursday, December 15, 2005
[puma-news] Oh Dear
Has this happened to you?
You go out to get in your shiney vehicle to go to town, and what
awaits? Good grief, have Christmas elves been turned loose with finger
paints? Did we upset any local teenagers? Does our truck have a
secret life?
Try explaining it to your town friends --- it's elk, licking mag-chlor
which gets all over everything, especially when the roads are wet. And
it's too cold to wash your car, unless you go to the Piddle in Boulder.
Heck, I don't go to Boulder that often! So I live with the shame and
embarrassment of elk-lick, taking back roads and alleys whenever possible.
Jennifer
Wednesday, November 16, 2005
[puma-news] Magnoila raw milk co-op
Hi all,
we are a small co-op formed in April of '05, currently of 7 members in
the Magnolia area who have bought "shares" of a dairy cow, (legally
approved of in Colorado) through Guidestone Farm, (also associated
with Sunrise Ranch) and Ebert Farms, located near Loveland and Byers.
They have a small herd of about 12? cows or thereabouts. We are
looking for an additional 2 or 3 people who would also like to join us
and share in the benefits of raw milk and other produce the farm
offers.
This requires that you be a
<color><param>0000,0000,FFFB</param>responsible</color> person able to
commit to the picking up of your share/s of milk at our Magnolia
location every weekend, and be able to happily do your share of the
driving to the farm, (1 time per X number of weeks depending on number
of current members) We would like to have 9 or 10 total members, as
this would allow each of us to drive to the Loveland farm location
only once every 9 or 10 weeks and keeps the number of coolers
necessary to about three. The drive is 1 hour and 15 min. one way from
Magnolia.
In addition to this there is a rotation of small jobs that help our
group to function as a co-op, such as making a driving schedule once
every 3 -4 months, being the e-mail point person, keeping the order
sheet up to date, hosting the pick-up site, helping get the monthly
milk payments in, etc.
Costs involved: there is a <color><param>0000,0000,FFFC</param>one
time </color>buy-in fee, you legally own a share of the cow,
"<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>the cost of a cow share
is $50.00. One cow can accomodate about 25 shareholders, and we think
it makes sense to have the shares reflect the cost of a cow. The
current market for a Jersey cow is between $1400 and $1750.00" Julie
Ebert.
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current member wishes to sell you one of their shares which they
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monthly cost of the milk</color>; if you own 1/2 share (1 jar per
week) is $17.00 if you own a whole share (2 jars per week) is $34.00
if you own 1 1/2 share (3 jars per week) is $51.00, more quantities
available if want the figures.
If you desire to learn more about the benefits of raw milk first there
are a couple of good resources you can check out, the web site:
realmilk.org and two books; The Milk Book by William Douglass MD. (at
Boulder's library) and The Untold Story of Milk, by Ron Schmid ND. The
web site has even more resources.
Paperwork detailing operating standards of the farm have been provided
to the co-op and is available to read.
They keep us informed about their testing of the milk here is the
latest count.
<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param>"We wanted to let you know
the most recent results of the bulk tank milk sample. The standard
plate count was 570 cfu/g (colony forming units/ gram). The coliform
count was less than one. To remind you, the standard in the raw milk
community is for the standard plate count to be 10,000 cfu/g or less
and coliforms 50 or less. After milk is pasteurized the standard
plate count is required to be 20,000 cfu/g or less"</fontfamily>
Other benefits of going to the farm;
The farm has their own store and also offers raw skim milk, their own
honey, eggs from their free range hens, various meats, fresh breads,
raw cream and colostrum when available, raw yogurt, cheese and some
non food items.
Kids enjoy going to the farm to see all the various animals, the
people are very kid friendly there.
If you have any question about joining please respond via this email
or call Yvonne or George @ 303-938-9658
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005
[puma-news] PUMA Meeting Wed, Nov 16
Pumites,
There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.
We have several agenda items, including:
Car-pool oranization
Winniger Ridge Project
Planning for Holiday Party
This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!
Dan
Sunday, November 13, 2005
[puma-news] PUMA Meeting in Nov
Pumites,
There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.
We have several agenda items, including Car-pool oranization and
Winniger Ridge Project. If you have any items, please send them to:
puma@magnoliaroad.net
This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!
Dan
Saturday, November 12, 2005
[puma-news] Missing Red Gas (Plastic) Can
Hello All
I am asking anybody who used the lawnmower over the summer and early fall
to check if they still have the gas can that was with it. I am missing
it. It should be a one gallon plastic red gas can. Please check as it is
mine.
Terry Greenberg
303-443-1409
Tuesday, November 01, 2005
[puma-news] PUMA Meeting in Nov
Pumites,
There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.
We have agenda items, including Car-pool oranization and Winniger Ridge
Project. If you have any items, please send them to: puma@magnoliaroad.net
This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!
Dan
Monday, October 31, 2005
[puma-news] 4 WD Toyota Truck 4 Sale
Dear Pumites,
I am selling my 1987 Toyota truck, 4 wheel drive (with low gear), extend
cab.
Very good little truck. 192,000 miles. Like-new BF Goodrich all terrain
tires.
Dependable. All maintenance records for last 14 years.
$2,150.00
Please pass along to anyone you think might be interested.
Call (303)-449-1789
Thank you,
Sharon Ticehurst
Saturday, October 29, 2005
[puma-news] office furniture, stove, wall oven
Does anyone need a nice large beige desk or table with
hutch? All the Hon office style.
Kitchen remodel. 30" slide-in range, and 27" wall
oven--seldom used. Both are Jenn-air, black with
stainless. Timer doesn't work on the range.
No reasonable offer refused.
Lisa Gilliss
303-818-3614 cell
303-442-1425 office
303-541-0645 home
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Friday, October 28, 2005
[puma-news] Haunted House returns
In reply to the folks who have been asking, yes, there will be a haunted
house from 6 PM - 9 PM at 18 Meadowland Court on Halloween night....
Thursday, October 27, 2005
RE: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment
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Subject: Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First AmendmentJohnI split 50/50 on this.The Onion:The Onion isn't trying to scam you or fool you so, "yes, I agree" let it have its fun.Mail:I get too much junk mail that tries to "Look Official". They try to misrepresent to the point where I would say its an attempted scam. It annoys me greatly. So I differ with you on this one.Just one opinionAllen
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
Where you find the laws most numerous, there you will find also the greatest injustice.
~ ArcesilausI would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment
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>>> "John Carder" <jcarder@topline-charts.com> 10/26/2005 1:27:47 PM >>>
the latest from Washington:
They've decided that they "own" certain words.
1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!
2) The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.
I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.
The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.
You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.
John,
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[puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment
Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you'll probably be shocked by
the latest from Washington:
They've decided that they "own" certain words.
1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!
2) The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.
I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.
The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.
You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.
John,
~ the chart guy
John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!
www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com
PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA
800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
303.440.0147 (fax)
[puma-news] Next meeting?
Hi All,
Is there going to be a meeting in November (11/3) as discussed a little
while ago? If so, any location yet?
George
Monday, October 24, 2005
[puma-news] Fwd: Important! Fair Elections Petition
I am forwarding this on, as it is an issue I am very concerned about.
If you don't like signing petitions, you can go to the website just to
read more about the new House Bill, and then call or write your Rep.
Begin forwarded message:
<excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Subject:
</color>Important! Fair Elections Petition
</fontfamily></bold>
Hi Folks
I don't usually spam folks anymore about political things, but this one
seems simple and so effects our rights for have our vote counted as it
was
intended, the root of a democratic society. It's very easy to sign the
petition - the link goes straight to the site. If you see fit, please
pass
this one on.
Naomi
This petition is for a national law giving us voter verified paper
ballots
by 2006. Many of our current voting machines are DRE's (Direct
Recording
Electronic systems) which do not produce a record of individual votes
at
all. Other systems have optical scan ballots, but only the vote total
produced by the ballot scanning software is ever counted. The GAO
continues
to warn that we are too reliant on voting software and that errors can
become certified election results.
HB550 would require that ballots be the vote of record upon which we
base
our election results. The petition's website is:
http://www.icountcoalition.org/ .
Please let your voice be heard in Washington by signing this petition,
and
forwarding the link. People of all political affiliations are
interested in
this bill. After all, nothing is more reflexive to the American
psyche than
counting everyone's vote.
Thank you for helping to make verifiable elections a reality!
--
----
"Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of
strength that will endure
as long as life lasts." --Rachel Carson
</excerpt>
Thursday, October 20, 2005
RE: [puma-news] Found Puppy
That is phenomenal news! All our hearts have been going out to Cori, Tom and
their 12-week old puppy. What a great story of survival, and being watched
over & protected.
Thanks for the great start to the day!
-D
>From: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>Reply-To: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>To: PUMA Mailing Listna <puma-news@puma-net.org>
>Subject: [puma-news] Found Puppy
>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:52:07 -0600
>
>Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
>permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
>available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
>made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
>a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
>since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.
>
>Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!
>
>Terry
>
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Wednesday, October 19, 2005
[puma-news] Found Puppy
Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.
Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!
Terry
Saturday, October 15, 2005
[puma-news] Re: remember to vote
Dear Pumitas y Pumitos,
Please remember to vote in the November 1 election. Because this is an odd
year and the ballot issues puzzling, please vote and pay careful attention
to these issues. The crux of Referenda C&D is funding for health, education
and transportation. Please mail in your ballots by the deadline, November 1.
Thanks for your consideration....
Cheers,
Suzanne MacAulay
Suzanne P. MacAulay, Ph.D.
60 Aspen Grove Court MSR
Nederland, Colorado 80466-9636
USA
Ph: (303) 447-8176
Email: smacaulay1@earthlink.net
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world.
Indeed it's the only thing that ever has."
Margaret Mead