Thursday, December 15, 2005

[puma-news] Oh Dear

Has this happened to you?

You go out to get in your shiney vehicle to go to town, and what
awaits? Good grief, have Christmas elves been turned loose with finger
paints? Did we upset any local teenagers? Does our truck have a
secret life?

Try explaining it to your town friends --- it's elk, licking mag-chlor
which gets all over everything, especially when the roads are wet. And
it's too cold to wash your car, unless you go to the Piddle in Boulder.
Heck, I don't go to Boulder that often! So I live with the shame and
embarrassment of elk-lick, taking back roads and alleys whenever possible.

Jennifer

Wednesday, November 16, 2005

[puma-news] Magnoila raw milk co-op

Hi all,

we are a small co-op formed in April of '05, currently of 7 members in
the Magnolia area who have bought "shares" of a dairy cow, (legally
approved of in Colorado) through Guidestone Farm, (also associated
with Sunrise Ranch) and Ebert Farms, located near Loveland and Byers.
They have a small herd of about 12? cows or thereabouts. We are
looking for an additional 2 or 3 people who would also like to join us
and share in the benefits of raw milk and other produce the farm
offers.

This requires that you be a
<color><param>0000,0000,FFFB</param>responsible</color> person able to
commit to the picking up of your share/s of milk at our Magnolia
location every weekend, and be able to happily do your share of the
driving to the farm, (1 time per X number of weeks depending on number
of current members) We would like to have 9 or 10 total members, as
this would allow each of us to drive to the Loveland farm location
only once every 9 or 10 weeks and keeps the number of coolers
necessary to about three. The drive is 1 hour and 15 min. one way from
Magnolia.

In addition to this there is a rotation of small jobs that help our
group to function as a co-op, such as making a driving schedule once
every 3 -4 months, being the e-mail point person, keeping the order
sheet up to date, hosting the pick-up site, helping get the monthly
milk payments in, etc.

Costs involved: there is a <color><param>0000,0000,FFFC</param>one
time </color>buy-in fee, you legally own a share of the cow,
"<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>the cost of a cow share
is $50.00.  One cow can accomodate about 25 shareholders, and we think
it makes sense to have the shares reflect the cost of a cow.  The
current market for a Jersey cow is between $1400 and $1750.00" Julie
Ebert.

</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily>The exception to this would be if a
current member wishes to sell you one of their shares which they
purchased for less in the beginning of this co-op.<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>

</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily><color><param>0000,0000,FFFC</param>The
monthly cost of the milk</color>; if you own 1/2 share (1 jar per
week) is $17.00 if you own a whole share (2 jars per week) is $34.00
if you own 1 1/2 share (3 jars per week) is $51.00, more quantities
available if want the figures.

If you desire to learn more about the benefits of raw milk first there
are a couple of good resources you can check out, the web site:
realmilk.org and two books; The Milk Book by William Douglass MD. (at
Boulder's library) and The Untold Story of Milk, by Ron Schmid ND. The
web site has even more resources.

Paperwork detailing operating standards of the farm have been provided
to the co-op and is available to read.

They keep us informed about their testing of the milk here is the
latest count.

<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param>"We wanted to let you know
the most recent results of the bulk tank milk sample.  The standard
plate count was 570 cfu/g (colony forming units/ gram).  The coliform
count was less than one.  To remind you, the standard in the raw milk
community is for the standard plate count to be 10,000 cfu/g or less
and coliforms 50 or less.  After milk is pasteurized the standard
plate count is required to be 20,000 cfu/g or less"</fontfamily>

Other benefits of going to the farm;

The farm has their own store and also offers raw skim milk, their own
honey, eggs from their free range hens, various meats, fresh breads,
raw cream and colostrum when available, raw yogurt, cheese and some
non food items.

Kids enjoy going to the farm to see all the various animals, the
people are very kid friendly there.

If you have any question about joining please respond via this email
or call Yvonne or George @ 303-938-9658

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</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily>

Tuesday, November 15, 2005

[puma-news] PUMA Meeting Wed, Nov 16

Pumites,

There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.

We have several agenda items, including:
Car-pool oranization
Winniger Ridge Project
Planning for Holiday Party

This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!

Dan

Sunday, November 13, 2005

[puma-news] PUMA Meeting in Nov

Pumites,

There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.

We have several agenda items, including Car-pool oranization and
Winniger Ridge Project. If you have any items, please send them to:
puma@magnoliaroad.net

This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!

Dan

Saturday, November 12, 2005

[puma-news] Missing Red Gas (Plastic) Can

Hello All

I am asking anybody who used the lawnmower over the summer and early fall
to check if they still have the gas can that was with it. I am missing
it. It should be a one gallon plastic red gas can. Please check as it is
mine.

Terry Greenberg
303-443-1409

Tuesday, November 01, 2005

[puma-news] PUMA Meeting in Nov

Pumites,

There will be a PUMA Meeting Wednesday November 16. The meeting will
take place at Terry Greenberg's house on Pine Glade at 7pm.

We have agenda items, including Car-pool oranization and Winniger Ridge
Project. If you have any items, please send them to: puma@magnoliaroad.net

This will be the only meeting this fall, so make it a point to try to be
there!

Dan

Monday, October 31, 2005

[puma-news] 4 WD Toyota Truck 4 Sale

Dear Pumites,

I am selling my 1987 Toyota truck, 4 wheel drive (with low gear), extend
cab.
Very good little truck. 192,000 miles. Like-new BF Goodrich all terrain
tires.
Dependable. All maintenance records for last 14 years.
$2,150.00

Please pass along to anyone you think might be interested.

Call (303)-449-1789

Thank you,

Sharon Ticehurst

Saturday, October 29, 2005

[puma-news] office furniture, stove, wall oven

Does anyone need a nice large beige desk or table with
hutch? All the Hon office style.

Kitchen remodel. 30" slide-in range, and 27" wall
oven--seldom used. Both are Jenn-air, black with
stainless. Timer doesn't work on the range.

No reasonable offer refused.

Lisa Gilliss

303-818-3614 cell
303-442-1425 office
303-541-0645 home



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Friday, October 28, 2005

[puma-news] Haunted House returns

In reply to the folks who have been asking, yes, there will be a haunted
house from 6 PM - 9 PM at 18 Meadowland Court on Halloween night....

Thursday, October 27, 2005

RE: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Bentz [mailto:abentz@ACSD14.K12.CO.US]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:03 AM
To: puma-news@puma-net.org; jcarder@topline-charts.com
Subject: Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

John
I split 50/50 on this.
 
The Onion:
The Onion isn't trying to scam you or fool you so, "yes, I agree" let it have its fun.
 
Mail:
I get too much junk mail that tries to "Look Official".  They try to misrepresent to the point where I would say its an attempted scam.  It annoys me greatly.  So I differ with you on this one.
 
Just one opinion
Allen
 
I agree that mailers that try to misrepresent themselves should be prosecuted. There are TONs of laws on the books (e.g., mail fraud) that would allow a prosecutor to do that right now. What the government has done is to specify that certain words (Social Security) are not to be used, at all.
 
To quote H.L. Mencken:
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
 
When the Federal Register is over 70,000 pages, and all of it has the force of law, you have to wonder whether we might have enough laws on the books already.
 
Where you find the laws most numerous, there you will find also the greatest injustice.
~ Arcesilaus
 
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
  ~ Thomas Jefferson
I'm sure I'm over-reacting.
 
John

Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

John
I split 50/50 on this.
 
The Onion:
The Onion isn't trying to scam you or fool you so, "yes, I agree" let it have its fun.
 
Mail:
I get too much junk mail that tries to "Look Official".  They try to misrepresent to the point where I would say its an attempted scam.  It annoys me greatly.  So I differ with you on this one.
 
Just one opinion
Allen
 
 
 
 
 
Allen W. Bentz
Programmer
Adams County Sch. Dist. 14
303.853.3226
abentz@acsd14.k12.co.us

>>> "John Carder" <jcarder@topline-charts.com> 10/26/2005 1:27:47 PM >>>
Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you'll probably be shocked by
the latest from Washington:

They've decided that they "own" certain words.

1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!

2)  The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.

I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.

The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.

    You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
    www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.

John,

  ~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO  80306-2340  USA

800.347.0157  (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157  (voice)
303.440.0147  (fax)


[puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you'll probably be shocked by
the latest from Washington:

They've decided that they "own" certain words.

1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!

2) The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.

I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.

The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.

You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.

John,

~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA

800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
303.440.0147 (fax)

[puma-news] Next meeting?

Hi All,

Is there going to be a meeting in November (11/3) as discussed a little
while ago? If so, any location yet?

George

Monday, October 24, 2005

[puma-news] Fwd: Important! Fair Elections Petition

I am forwarding this on, as it is an issue I am very concerned about.
If you don't like signing petitions, you can go to the website just to
read more about the new House Bill, and then call or write your Rep.

Begin forwarded message:

<excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Subject:
</color>Important! Fair Elections Petition

</fontfamily></bold>

Hi Folks

I don't usually spam folks anymore about political things, but this one

seems simple and so effects our rights for have our vote counted as it
was

intended, the root of a democratic society. It's very easy to sign the

petition - the link goes straight to the site. If you see fit, please
pass

this one on.

Naomi

This petition is for a national law giving us voter verified paper
ballots

by 2006. Many of our current voting machines are DRE's (Direct
Recording

Electronic systems) which do not produce a record of individual votes
at

all. Other systems have optical scan ballots, but only the vote total

produced by the ballot scanning software is ever counted. The GAO
continues

to warn that we are too reliant on voting software and that errors can

become certified election results.

HB550 would require that ballots be the vote of record upon which we
base

our election results. The petition's website is:

http://www.icountcoalition.org/ .

Please let your voice be heard in Washington by signing this petition,
and

forwarding the link. People of all political affiliations are
interested in

this bill. After all, nothing is more reflexive to the American
psyche than

counting everyone's vote.

Thank you for helping to make verifiable elections a reality!

--

----

"Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of

strength that will endure

as long as life lasts." --Rachel Carson

</excerpt>

Thursday, October 20, 2005

RE: [puma-news] Found Puppy

That is phenomenal news! All our hearts have been going out to Cori, Tom and
their 12-week old puppy. What a great story of survival, and being watched
over & protected.

Thanks for the great start to the day!

-D

>From: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>Reply-To: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>To: PUMA Mailing Listna <puma-news@puma-net.org>
>Subject: [puma-news] Found Puppy
>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:52:07 -0600
>
>Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
>permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
>available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
>made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
>a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
>since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.
>
>Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!
>
>Terry
>

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Wednesday, October 19, 2005

[puma-news] Found Puppy

Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.

Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!

Terry

Saturday, October 15, 2005

[puma-news] Re: remember to vote

Dear Pumitas y Pumitos,

Please remember to vote in the November 1 election. Because this is an odd
year and the ballot issues puzzling, please vote and pay careful attention
to these issues. The crux of Referenda C&D is funding for health, education
and transportation. Please mail in your ballots by the deadline, November 1.

Thanks for your consideration....

Cheers,

Suzanne MacAulay

Suzanne P. MacAulay, Ph.D.
60 Aspen Grove Court MSR
Nederland, Colorado 80466-9636
USA
Ph: (303) 447-8176
Email: smacaulay1@earthlink.net
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world.
Indeed it's the only thing that ever has."

Margaret Mead

Friday, October 14, 2005

Re: [puma-news] Anyone See A Puppy?

I hope he's ok.  I'll let you know if I see him.  Let us know what happens.  Marielle

[puma-news] Anyone See A Puppy?

Hi PUMA People and friends (tell them)

I'm passing a message about a missing puppy so please check it out. Thanks.

Terry

>From: "Tom Boogaard" <tombo@mric.net>
>Date: October 10, 2005 10:33:10 AM MDT
>To: <cchapman@boulder.swri.edu>, <ychapman@mric.net>
>Cc: "Cori Boogaard" <Coriboo@mric.net>
>Subject: Missing Puppy Lazy Z
>
>Greetings,
>
>Thank you for posting this on the Puma site on our behalf. The puppy below
>is a 12 week old Keeshound.(He may be mistaken for a Chow). He's gray and
>black and weighs approx. 12 lbs. He had a green checkered collar on
>however, he did not have a nametag yet. He would come when you say "Come
>here" and we we're calling him 'Puck' (From Midsummer's Night Dream).
>
>He was last seen late on Saturday afternoon at around 3:30-4:00pm. He had
>snuck out a side door. Our neighbors had several people and dogs at there
>home and we believe that he may have wandered towards the other people and
>dogs along the street and a hiker may have picked him up. We have had a
>search party out looking for him to no avail and have also put up signs on
>our road and in Nederland.
>
>Please call us if you have any information
>Tom & Cori Tel: 303-642-0882
>Cori Cell: 720-480-1460
>
>Thank you!!!
>
>
>tombo@mric.net

Thursday, October 13, 2005

[puma-news] Train Show

The Boulder Model Railroad Club is having their annual train show this
Saturday and Sunday, October 15th and 16th.

It will be held at the Southern Hills Middle School, which is at 1500 Knox
Drive in Table Mesa. For details and a map see:

http://bcn.boulder.co.us/recreation/bmrc/bmrcshow2005.html

-Loren

Monday, October 10, 2005

[puma-news] free monitor filter screen

We are giving away a monitor screen for a 15" CRT type computer
monitor. It is by 3M and is supposed to reduce glare on, and radiation
from the monitor. We had it on our monitor until we got an LCD type.

George

Sunday, October 09, 2005

RE: [puma-news] Snowplowing

That's great! Remember to take good care of whoever it is, so they'll come
back next year <g>.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Joy Om [mailto:joyom@indra.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 7:39 PM
To: waltressa-john@att.net
Cc: PUMA News; PUMA
Subject: Re: [puma-news] Snowplowing

John and Wally and other Pumites,
I located a snowplow company who will come over here.
Mark at Sno-busters 303 258-3777. He came by and gave me an estimate.
He will be doing 2 houses here on Pine Glade so far - from Coal Creek I
believe.
Joy

waltressa-john@att.net wrote:

>I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since
Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses?
If so, we are interested, too.
>
>Thanks, John and Wally
>
>
>
>

[puma-news] free firewood

I have a large, dry, mostly cut up tree if someone would
like it for firewood and can come and get it.
Joy 303 258-0717

Saturday, October 08, 2005

Re: [puma-news] Snowplowing

John and Wally and other Pumites,
I located a snowplow company who will come over here.
Mark at Sno-busters 303 258-3777. He came by and gave me an estimate.
He will be doing 2 houses here on Pine Glade so far - from Coal Creek I
believe.
Joy

waltressa-john@att.net wrote:

>I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we are interested, too.
>
>Thanks, John and Wally
>
>
>
>

[puma-news] Anyone have a Water Trough for Sale?

Hello

My horse's water trough has developed yet another leak. I repair it as
well as I can but. . . . .

Does anyone have a water trough for sale? Please let me know via e-mail or
call at 303-443-1409.

Terry

Wednesday, October 05, 2005

[puma-news] Please Vote Yes on Ballot 5A!


Dear Neighbors,
If you are in the library district (you got a yellow postcard recently if
you are), you will have a chance to vote on Ballot Issue 5A. This issue
would enable Nederland Community Library to collect the full amount of
taxes that we voters overwhelmingly approved in 2002.

The community library has grown and increased its services to the
community and surrounding areas, but does need the full allotment of taxes
that approval of Ballot 5A would garner in order to cover its operating
expenses.

I have been involved in the library on a volunteer basis as well as a
patron. We are fortunate to now have a staffed library with great
resources for kids, young adults, adults and seniors - let's do what we
can to keep that going!

Please show your support of the library by voting yes for ballot issue 5A
and encouraging everyone else you know to do the same! Remember that this
election is mail-in only, so send your ballot in by October 27th to be
sure your vote will count.

If you have questions about the initiative I'd be happy to try and answer
them.

Thanks for your support,
Susie Gallaudet
881 Pine Glade Rd.
303-258-0939

RE: [puma-news] Snowplowing

I don't know of anyone doing plowing for hire. Here's why:

Most services like Sugarloaf don't last very long. The economics just aren't
there. You have an expensive, complex piece of equipment that you are only
using a small amount of time. It has to have a big engine, so it uses a lot
of fuel. When you're using it, it's typically during the worst conditions
(causing breakdowns, which are expensive to fix, and mean you can't charge
for plowing that you can't do). So, you're trying to get enough customers to
pay for that expensive truck and plow, and its maintenance. If you get
enough customers to make a go of it, along comes a big storm. In a big
storm, it takes longer to plow each customer, and what was just enough
customers is now too many! And most of those customers will be upset,
because they want to be plowed first.

This will be the twenty-second winter that I've plowed my 0.7 mile driveway
on Porter Ranch. I also plow HCFD Station #4 and my mother's drive. That's
more than I want to plow, already. I've worn out two plows and one truck
over the years (I'm on my second truck and third plow). In other words, I've
paid a bit of fools' tax, learning the ropes. If someone wants to get a plow
for themselves, I'd be more than happy to share what I've learned, and point
them in the right direction.

John Carder

-----Original Message-----
From: waltressa-john@att.net [mailto:waltressa-john@att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:03 AM
To: PUMA News; PUMA
Subject: [puma-news] Snowplowing

I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf
is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we
are interested, too.

Thanks, John and Wally

[puma-news] Snowplowing

I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we are interested, too.

Thanks, John and Wally

Monday, October 03, 2005

Hi All--

I have two tickets for Jerry Seinfeld for October 7th--9:30 PM show at the
Temple Buell Theatre. I'm selling them and giving the proceeds to the
Salvation Army for Hurricane relief. Anyone interested?

terry
303-443-1409

Sunday, October 02, 2005

[puma-news] Spot welder wanted for housecall

My sister is looking for a spot welder to repair a seam on a log
splitter. Any recommendations for someone willing to make a Nederland
house call?

greg

Thursday, September 29, 2005

Re: [puma-news] Re: Cutting cost of living

Thanks Norman for your suggestions.
Also see www.ourhealthcoop.com for really low cost good supplements.
Joy

Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman wrote:


Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman wrote:

Hi Bonnie:

Your note from last week suggests an interest in exploring ways to reduce overhead (with an environmental consciousness) as the cost of living continues to climb.

Here are some ideas we are using now to reduce costs:

1.  Organic Produce Delivery:

There's a new service up here that delivers fresh organic produce (also some grains, coffee, honey, etc) once a week to your door at competitive prices (actually, if you factor in gas and time...they win).  They use locally farmed product whenever possible:

http://www.denver.doortodoororganics.com

2.  Cell phone for emergency/minimal use...$10/month, free phone, no contract.  25 cents a minute for calls.  No charge for AAA or emergency calls.  Cingular service, seems to work in many areas up here (as recently covered by other emailers):

Consumer Cellular Phone:  1-800-686-4460

3.  Trash & Recyclables Pick up

I've been informed that One Way has a half price scale for pick up of one can a week.  Recyclables pick up is extra charge.
High Country Rubbish will pick up four 33 gallon bags and most recyclables at better than half the price of One Way.

Phone:  303-642-0303

4.  Buying supplements and other products at Whole Foods?

It's no secret that you can save more than 50% on line for the same products.  Here's one of many good sites:

http://www.myvitanet.com


5.  Paying for airplane tickets?

Practically all stores and services/utilities (including insurance companies, phone, propane...even the post office!) accept MasterCard/VISA.  Collect enough "air miles" and never pay for tickets again.  Here's an example of one:

http://www.chase.com/united

No doubt other folks have lots of other ideas...

Norman
Aspen Meadows



Bonnie Sundance wrote:

Dear Puma Friends,
        I've been feeling a strong desire to meet with Puma people to discuss a number of matters.   I wonder if anyone else would like to meet and talk at a regular PUMA meeting time 1st Thursday of Oct. and/or Nov.
        Please let me know......
                delight@denver.net

        Here are some topics I'd like to share about and hear from others about:
--Increasing opportunities to carpool....1x or more a week:  to save on oil/gas usage, to save people money and to build community

--introducing Boulder Skill Share, a way to exchange services with others on a time basis

--talking about alternative food shopping at the local Nederland and Boulder Cooperative markets

--increasing services being provided by and for our community here on Magnolia Rd. to cut down on having to travel to Boulder or Nederland


Thanks,

Bonnie Sundance
delight@denver.net
Caring for the Earth, all beings and working for Peace & Justice





[puma-news] Log Splitter

Hi All

Anybody have a log splitter? Or know of where to get one to use at the
best price available? Please let me know.

Thanks.

Terry Greenberg
303-443-1409

Wednesday, September 28, 2005

[puma-news] The far right plan to pay for rebuilding the gulf coast

If you have not heard of "Operation Off-set", the plan by some
extremely short-sighted congressional members to gut many social,
environmental and energy programs supposedly to pay for repairing the
damage to the gulf coast region after the recent hurricanes, check out
this web site:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2005/9/26/16541/5527?source=weekly

If you find the plan to be a terrible idea, please inform your senators
and representative in congress.

[puma-news] Re: Cutting cost of living

Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman wrote:

> Hi Bonnie:
>
> Your note from last week suggests an interest in exploring ways to
> reduce overhead (with an environmental consciousness) as the cost of
> living continues to climb.
>
> Here are some ideas we are using now to reduce costs:
>
> 1. Organic Produce Delivery:
>
> There's a new service up here that delivers fresh organic produce
> (also some grains, coffee, honey, etc) once a week to your door at
> competitive prices (actually, if you factor in gas and time...they
> win). They use locally farmed product whenever possible:
>
> http://www.denver.doortodoororganics.com
>
> 2. Cell phone for emergency/minimal use...$10/month, free phone, no
> contract. 25 cents a minute for calls. No charge for AAA or
> emergency calls. Cingular service, seems to work in many areas up
> here (as recently covered by other emailers):
>
> Consumer Cellular Phone: 1-800-686-4460
>
> 3. Trash & Recyclables Pick up
>
> I've been informed that One Way has a half price scale for pick up of
> one can a week. Recyclables pick up is extra charge.
> High Country Rubbish will pick up four 33 gallon bags and most
> recyclables at better than half the price of One Way.
>
> Phone: 303-642-0303
>
> 4. Buying supplements and other products at Whole Foods?
>
> It's no secret that you can save more than 50% on line for the same
> products. Here's one of many good sites:
>
> http://www.myvitanet.com

5. Paying for airplane tickets?

Practically all stores and services/utilities (including insurance
companies, phone, propane...even the post office!) accept
MasterCard/VISA. Collect enough "air miles" and never pay for tickets
again. Here's an example of one:

http://www.chase.com/united

> No doubt other folks have lots of other ideas...
>
> Norman
> Aspen Meadows
>
>
>
> Bonnie Sundance wrote:
>
>> Dear Puma Friends,
>> I've been feeling a strong desire to meet with Puma people to
>> discuss a number of matters. I wonder if anyone else would like to
>> meet and talk at a regular PUMA meeting time 1st Thursday of Oct.
>> and/or Nov.
>> Please let me know......
>> delight@denver.net
>>
>> Here are some topics I'd like to share about and hear from
>> others about:
>> --Increasing opportunities to carpool....1x or more a week: to save
>> on oil/gas usage, to save people money and to build community
>>
>> --introducing Boulder Skill Share, a way to exchange services with
>> others on a time basis
>>
>> --talking about alternative food shopping at the local Nederland and
>> Boulder Cooperative markets
>>
>> --increasing services being provided by and for our community here on
>> Magnolia Rd. to cut down on having to travel to Boulder or Nederland
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bonnie Sundance
>> delight@denver.net
>> Caring for the Earth, all beings and working for Peace & Justice
>>
>

Tuesday, September 27, 2005

RE: [puma-news] Cell phones

We have a cingular GSM phone and it works better than the digital/analog
ATT/cingular service did.
Vivian

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
[mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org]On Behalf Of Fay
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:11 PM
To: 'PUMA News'
Subject: [puma-news] Cell phones

Does anyone up here (Magnolia area) have the new GSM technology cell phone
and does it work here? I am assuming we are still talking Cingular/ATT. I
am on that service but thinking of upgrading the phone but need to know it
works up here.
Thanks for the help.
Fay Benson

RE: [puma-news] Cell phones

Fay
 
At 17 Range Rd (Bottom of THE pine glade hill)   I can actually use the GSM.  With the old phone I had to walk up the hill after I got the call or else it was too garbled.
 
Allen
 
Allen W. Bentz
Programmer
Adams County Sch. Dist. 14
303.853.3226
abentz@acsd14.k12.co.us

>>> "Fay" <fay@mric.net> 9/26/2005 4:12:13 PM >>>
Thanks.  Sounds like the service is the same in areas as what I have now
with Cingular.  That's what I needed.
Fay

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
[mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of
gordona@magnoliaroad.net
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:08 PM
To: Fay
Cc: 'PUMA News'
Subject: Re: [puma-news] Cell phones

Cingular GSM works, but not everywhere.  There are definite weak spots
along Magnolia road.  On the pavement and in the canyon there is very
litte service.  Service is weak near twin sisters and strong near and
along upper pine glade.  I'm not sure what it is where you are, but your
just over the ridge from us.

Allen

Fay wrote:

>Does anyone up here (Magnolia area) have the new GSM technology cell phone
>and does it work here?  I am assuming we are still talking Cingular/ATT.  I
>am on that service but thinking of upgrading the phone but need to know it
>works up here.
>Thanks for the help.
>Fay Benson
>
>

>


Monday, September 26, 2005

RE: [puma-news] Cell phones

Thanks. Sounds like the service is the same in areas as what I have now
with Cingular. That's what I needed.
Fay

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org
[mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of
gordona@magnoliaroad.net
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:08 PM
To: Fay
Cc: 'PUMA News'
Subject: Re: [puma-news] Cell phones

Cingular GSM works, but not everywhere. There are definite weak spots
along Magnolia road. On the pavement and in the canyon there is very
litte service. Service is weak near twin sisters and strong near and
along upper pine glade. I'm not sure what it is where you are, but your
just over the ridge from us.

Allen

Fay wrote:

>Does anyone up here (Magnolia area) have the new GSM technology cell phone
>and does it work here? I am assuming we are still talking Cingular/ATT. I
>am on that service but thinking of upgrading the phone but need to know it
>works up here.
>Thanks for the help.
>Fay Benson
>
>
>
>

Re: [puma-news] Cell phones

Cingular GSM works, but not everywhere. There are definite weak spots
along Magnolia road. On the pavement and in the canyon there is very
litte service. Service is weak near twin sisters and strong near and
along upper pine glade. I'm not sure what it is where you are, but your
just over the ridge from us.

Allen

Fay wrote:

>Does anyone up here (Magnolia area) have the new GSM technology cell phone
>and does it work here? I am assuming we are still talking Cingular/ATT. I
>am on that service but thinking of upgrading the phone but need to know it
>works up here.
>Thanks for the help.
>Fay Benson
>
>
>
>

[puma-news] Cell phones

Does anyone up here (Magnolia area) have the new GSM technology cell phone
and does it work here? I am assuming we are still talking Cingular/ATT. I
am on that service but thinking of upgrading the phone but need to know it
works up here.
Thanks for the help.
Fay Benson

Thursday, September 22, 2005

Re: [puma-news] Mime-Version: 1.0

Bonnie,
We are planning a PUMA meeting in November, so we will add you agenda items.
Dan

Bonnie Sundance wrote:

> Dear Puma Friends,
> I've been feeling a strong desire to meet with Puma people to
> discuss a number of matters. I wonder if anyone else would like to
> meet and talk at a regular PUMA meeting time 1st Thursday of Oct.
> and/or Nov.
> Please let me know......
> delight@denver.net
>
> Here are some topics I'd like to share about and hear from
> others about:
> --Increasing opportunities to carpool....1x or more a week: to save
> on oil/gas usage, to save people money and to build community
>
> --introducing Boulder Skill Share, a way to exchange services with
> others on a time basis
>
> --talking about alternative food shopping at the local Nederland and
> Boulder Cooperative markets
>
> --increasing services being provided by and for our community here on
> Magnolia Rd. to cut down on having to travel to Boulder or Nederland
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bonnie Sundance
> delight@denver.net
> Caring for the Earth, all beings and working for Peace & Justice

Wednesday, September 21, 2005

[puma-news] Mime-Version: 1.0

Dear Puma Friends,
I've been feeling a strong desire to meet with Puma people
to discuss a number of matters. I wonder if anyone else would like
to meet and talk at a regular PUMA meeting time 1st Thursday of Oct.
and/or Nov.
Please let me know......
delight@denver.net

Here are some topics I'd like to share about and hear from
others about:
--Increasing opportunities to carpool....1x or more a week: to save
on oil/gas usage, to save people money and to build community

--introducing Boulder Skill Share, a way to exchange services with
others on a time basis

--talking about alternative food shopping at the local Nederland and
Boulder Cooperative markets

--increasing services being provided by and for our community here on
Magnolia Rd. to cut down on having to travel to Boulder or Nederland

Thanks,

Bonnie Sundance
delight@denver.net
Caring for the Earth, all beings and working for Peace & Justice

Re: [puma-news] Looking for an electrician

/Also Positive Energy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [puma-news] Looking for an electrician

Peak to Peak Electric has done some small jobs for us. Good work and
reasonable rates. 303-258-7927.

Darrin Buehler wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> I live on Lazy Z road (off magnolia) with my wife, Jennifer and
> daughter, Andrea.
>
> The other day the partial power in my garage and now my electric doors
> don't function, and I lost power to my back-up fridge.
>
> I checked to see if just needed to be "re-booted" or to replace one of
> the fuses, but without success.
>
> I like to drive business to the locals. Is there anyone with some
> background in these matters that can a) get us up and running again
> and b) help me evaluate if I overpowered things by plugging in this
> back-up fridge. The last thing I want is a fire!
>
> I work from home so I can be around during the week - and to be clear,
> this is a for-pay request.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darrin Buehler
> home (303) 442-8891
> cell (303) 882-4422
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>

[puma-news] free Cd burner

I have a CD burner you can have for free. Excellent condition. (I upgraded
to DVD). First come...

Scott

******************************
Scott Campbell Reuman
Artist/Writer
Conundrum Designs, Inc.
Nederland, CO
http://www.conundrumdesigns.com
scottreuman@conundrumdesigns.com

Tuesday, September 20, 2005

Re: [puma-news] Looking for an electrician

Peak to Peak Electric has done some small jobs for us. Good work and
reasonable rates. 303-258-7927.

Darrin Buehler wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> I live on Lazy Z road (off magnolia) with my wife, Jennifer and
> daughter, Andrea.
>
> The other day the partial power in my garage and now my electric doors
> don't function, and I lost power to my back-up fridge.
>
> I checked to see if just needed to be "re-booted" or to replace one of
> the fuses, but without success.
>
> I like to drive business to the locals. Is there anyone with some
> background in these matters that can a) get us up and running again
> and b) help me evaluate if I overpowered things by plugging in this
> back-up fridge. The last thing I want is a fire!
>
> I work from home so I can be around during the week - and to be clear,
> this is a for-pay request.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darrin Buehler
> home (303) 442-8891
> cell (303) 882-4422
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
>
>

Sunday, September 18, 2005

[puma-news] Snowplow

Hi,
I just found out that my snowplow contractor for the winter - Sugarloaf
Services -
will no longer be in business. Can anyone recommend a good person or
business
for plowing?
Thanks so much.
Joy Om

RE: [puma-news] Looking for an electrician

Greetings all,

I live on Lazy Z road (off magnolia) with my wife, Jennifer and daughter,
Andrea.

The other day the partial power in my garage and now my electric doors don't
function, and I lost power to my back-up fridge.

I checked to see if just needed to be "re-booted" or to replace one of the
fuses, but without success.

I like to drive business to the locals. Is there anyone with some background
in these matters that can a) get us up and running again and b) help me
evaluate if I overpowered things by plugging in this back-up fridge. The
last thing I want is a fire!

I work from home so I can be around during the week - and to be clear, this
is a for-pay request.

Thanks,

Darrin Buehler
home (303) 442-8891
cell (303) 882-4422

_________________________________________________________________
Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Thursday, September 15, 2005

[puma-news] Got Cheatgrass?

It is now a good time to work on your cheatgrass! PUMA has a mower and 3
sprayers available to use. If possible you should mow down infestations
first (collecting and disposing of the seeds). Then spray a mixture of
Plateau herbicide,Seed Oil and water, also available from PUMA. The cost
will be $2 per gallon of mix if you are a dues-paying member of PUMA.
Others will pay $4 per gallon. A full sprayer (3 gallons) should cover
1/4 acre, so most people should get by with one or two fills.

Call Terry (303-443-1409) or Dan (303-442-7460) to reserve a sprayer or
the mower, and to get detailed instructions on the best way to proceed.

Dan

Wednesday, September 14, 2005

[puma-news] Boulder/Denver Area Tour of Solar Homes and Solar Workshops


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Tuesday, September 13, 2005

[puma-news] David LaMotte House Concert September 15, 2005

For those who have never been to a house concert, Debbie and I would be
willing to pay for your first experience at this week's David Lamotte's
show. He has some extraordinary guitar playing skills!

We live along Aspen Meadows. We've been hosting mostly monthly concerts
for the last 6 years in our living room. All contributions go to the
touring artist.

Here's a bit on David:

"...guitar spanking open-tuning grooves as well as gentle folktinged
pop. His lyrics range from insightful imagedriven stories to equally
insightful humor." Washington Times

When: Thursday September 15, 2005
Music starts at 7 PM
Optional potluck begins at 6 PM

Cost: sliding scale, minimum donation $10-$12
100% of contributions go to artist
Reservations: http://www.ectores.luisys.com/make_res.php?event_id=39

Do let us know when you make this reservation that you found us through
the PUMA mailing list and this is your first house concert. We'll pay
the artist for you so it's a free show for you; if you really like him
you can buy an autographed CD from the artist.

It's been 14 years since David had a real job or a real haircut. In that
time, he has released eight albums and performed more than 1,600
shows in 45 states and 10 countries, sharing stages with artists such
as Arlo Guthrie, Shawn Mullins, Buddy Miles, Gillian Welch, John
Gorka, and David Wilcox.

To learn more about David LaMotte visit his web site at
http://www.davidlamotte.com

Reservations are required. For more details on our series see our
website http://aspenmeadowshc.org

[puma-news] Some of the forgotton victims

Noah's Wish is an organization based in California that responds to disaster
situations to keep animals alive during disaster situations.
http://www.noahswish.com/

They've been very busy with Hurricane Katrina, as you can see here.
http://www.noahswish.com/Hurricane%20Katrina.htm

This is one of those small groups that is filled with people who care, and
who don't waste donations.

John,

~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA

800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
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[puma-news] Please ACT NOW for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge VOTE

Dear Puma Friends,
I have been very concerned about protecting the Arctic
National Wildlife Refuge.

I recently learned that the vote in Congress to ok drilling
in the Arctic Refuge hasn't been finalized. That means there is
still a chance if enough people contact their congress person right
away (as there is an upcoming vote soon in Sept.).

The Natural Resources Defense Council offers a letter to
send to your congress person. They also suggest contacting the
moderate Reuplicans....or people in their states.
My version of their letter is below. You can copy it and
send it direct to your Congress
people via: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

or you can go direct to the original letter offered by the Natural
Resources Defense Council

http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/takeaction.asp?step=2&item=52893

Here is the letter I sent:

I urge you to vote against any budget reconciliation bill
that would open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

I am deeply opposed to oil development in the Arctic Refuge.
America's last unspoiled birthing ground for Arctic wildlife should
not be sacrificed for the sake of a year's or ten years worth of
national energy -- especially when we could save eleven times as much
oil through an increase in fuel economy standards, and sensible use of oil.

I am especially distressed that congressional leaders are attempting
to include Arctic drilling in the federal budget bill. Please obey
the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the American people who
oppose this strategy. The fate of America's premiere wildlife refuge
should be decided by an open debate -- not by a legislative inclusion
in a general budget.

Again, I urge you to oppose drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge in whatever manner the issue may arise: as part of the budget
process or as a free-standing bill. Congress does not have a mandate
to sacrifice the Arctic Refuge, and I will hold you accountable for
your vote and your stewardship of this irreplaceable natural treasure.

Thank you.

or you can go direct to the original letter offered by the Natural
Resources Defense Council

http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/takeaction.asp?step=2&item=52893

Thank you for whatever steps you take!

Bonnie Sundance
delight@denver.net
Caring for the Earth, all beings and working for Peace & Justice

[puma-news] Beetle kill article

PUMA received a $2,000 grant for slash chipping this summer. Contact
Parmita Pushman <parmita@whiteswanmusic.com> if you want to be on the
list for PUMA slash chipping this summer/fall.

greg

Article Last Updated: 9/13/2005 02:01 AM
Tiny beetles killing millions of pines
Mountain residents nervously watch their landscape change as an
infestation of historic proportions thins forests and raises the specter
of wildfires.
By Jack Cox
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

Grand Lake - In a mountain subdivision once so wooded most homeowners
couldn't see their neighbors, Ed Peterson steps away from a 50-foot
lodgepole pine he has just toppled and turns off his chain saw.

"Welcome to 'Stumpville,"' he says.

Around Peterson's log-style home and hundreds of others in this rustic
gateway to Rocky Mountain National Park, the land is dotted with the
squat reminders of thousands of trees lost to a massive pine beetle
infestation.

"It's unbelievable. You can almost hear them eating," says Peterson, who
has cut more than 250 lodgepoles on his 5-acre property in a mostly
futile attempt to keep the bugs at bay.

"We're fighting a big battle, but we're losing," the 65-year-old retiree
laments. "I think every mature tree around is going to die, and it
really hurts, because we're not going to see any of these big guys again
in our lifetime."

The scourge, more wide-ranging than similar epidemics in Colorado in the
1970s and '80s, has killed millions of 100-year- old trees in the
northern part of the state, turning whole mountainsides into
jaw-dropping expanses of orange or maroon.

"My wife said if you didn't know what it was, you'd think it was
actually kind of pretty - until you realized they're all dead," says
Dave Batura, a retired state patrolman and longtime Grand County resident.

Besides creating a blight that could keep tourists and recreationists
away, the enormous stands of dead and dying timber raise the specter of
wildfires, whichcould wipe out homes and businesses and cause erosion
threatening the watersheds supplying much of Denver's drinking water.

"If we don't do something, it will burn, and in the Williams Fork
drainage, that could be catastrophic," says Granby landowner Charles
Henry, referring to a hard-hit area west of Byers Peak.

"Based on what happened in the Hayman fire (in 2002), we know the flames
could be over the hill and in Winter Park in 3 1/2 hours. ... I don't
know if people will want to look at black trees when they're skiing, or
build a million-dollar home in an area that won't be revegetated for 30
or 40 years."

The beetle kill is most extensive in the Williams Fork, Troublesome and
Grand Lake areas, where aerial surveys show more than 300 square miles
of public and private woodlands have been infested - an area roughly the
size of Rocky Mountain National Park.

Summit, Eagle and Jackson counties also have been attacked, and a large
expanse of orange has been spotted in western Boulder County near
Rollinsville - the first outbreak reported on the Front Range.

Likened by many observers to a forest fire without the smoke, the
outbreak hasn't yet ravaged any ski resorts. But it appears poised to
hit Sol Vista and Winter Park, and it could threaten Keystone,
Breckenridge and Vail as well.

Some communities have begun to take on the look of logging camps as
residents and cutting crews work to clear out affected trees before they
become a fire hazard - and, hopefully, before the burrowing bugs can
spread to more stands.

In Grand Lake, piles of logs, slash and wood chips litter properties
everywhere, from clusters of aging summer cabins and RV parks along U.S.
34 to luxury homes above Shadow Mountain Lake, just south of the town.

The carnage has yet to cast a shadow over the real estate market
"because buyers realize this is nature's way, and there's absolutely
nothing we can do about it," says Suzi Maki, a broker with Re/Max
Resorts of Grand County. But provisions for the removal of dead trees
are being included in new contracts, she says, and homes that would have
been touted last year as "wooded and secluded" are listed this year as
having "stunning views."

The lodgepoles will grow back, foresters say, but it will take decades;
meanwhile, aspen can be expected to sprout in the open areas.

Short of wildfire or the depletion of all host trees, the only thing
that could halt the spread of the beetles would be an extended stretch
of bitter cold - enough to freeze the bugs in their winter homes beneath
the protective insulation of the bark.

Two weeks of minus-30 temperatures every night would do the trick,
research from Canada suggests, but Middle Park hasn't had a cold spell
like that for years.

Foresters say the state's mature lodgepoles have become vulnerable to
beetles because of years of drought, plus crowding brought about by
decades of fire suppression and curtailed logging. But even experts are
surprised by the extent of the current infestation.

"The system of checks and balances is a little out of whack," says
veteran entomologist Dave Leatherman of Fort Collins. "Because of
climate change, whatever the cause of that is, beetles throughout the
West are doing things people have never seen before."

In the last Colorado epidemic, trees thinned to about 12 feet apart were
found to be less susceptible. "But this time, while the thinned areas
are the last to succumb, it seems like everything is succumbing," says
Mike Harvey, a state forester in Granby.

Preventive spraying, which costs about $10 per tree, also is of dubious
value because the beetles apparently are boring into trunks at a level
higher than the 25 to 30 feet the sprays normally reach.

And the pests challenge long- held assumptions that they don't attack
trees smaller than 8 inches in diameter and can't spread much higher
than 10,000 feet. In Utah, says Leatherman, the bugs have been attacking
centuries- old bristlecone pines.

"I told people in Breckenridge a few years ago that they didn't have
anything to worry about," says Harvey. "But these darn things are kind
of rewriting the book on us."

The mountain pine beetles aren't the only insects wreaking havoc in the
forests of Colorado. Huge numbers of ponderosa and piƱon pines have been
killed by ips beetles in the south and southwestern parts of the state,
and large stands of spruce are under attack by yet another type in
northwestern Colorado around Steamboat Springs.

But the pine beetle infestation, which has become blazingly apparent
this summer, is raising widespread worry in Grand County, where people's
reactions vary from grief and concern to anger and frustration.

"The thing that bothers me is, what's going to happen to the watershed?"
says rancher Bob Chase, who "darn near cried" when he saw trees turning
red on the spread his grandparents homesteaded in 1899.

In the office of the Colorado State Forest Service, where a wall map
charts the progress of the epidemic over the past six years, Mike Harvey
says people are looking for a swift solution.

"But all the answers are long- term. With the work we are doing now" -
thinning and diversifying the forests to make them more resistant - "the
payoff is 40, 50 or 60 years down the road, and that's kind of hard for
this society to swallow. We like quick fixes," he says.

"The thing we have to remember is that this is a natural process. In
lodgepole, it's normal to have dense stands that grow to maturity, die
off in a beetle kill and then regenerate after a fire, like what
happened in Yellowstone in 1988."

The difference in Colorado, of course, is that over the past 10 or 15
years, many of the stands of lodgepole now in their death throes have
been settled with houses and condominiums.

As Henry sees it, eyeing the ever-growing pile of logs he has hauled out
of the woods on his 40-acre retreat southwest of Granby, "I'd love to
let nature take its course. But considering the tourist economy and our
livelihoods, I don't think we want this forest to burn."

To reduce the most immediate threat, the U.S. Forest Service is mapping
out clear-cuts to create firebreaks between private and public lands on
several thousand acres in the Grand Lake and Fraser areas over the next
few years. In addition, large landowners such as the Grand Lake
municipal golf course and the YMCA's Snow Mountain Ranch near Tabernash
are cutting aggressively in hopes of minimizing the impacts.

Winter Park, which anchors a band of lodgepole that stretches virtually
unbroken for 15 miles along the western flank of the Indian Peaks
Wilderness Area, also is working to mitigate the threat.

The ski area has spent nearly $500,000 to remove deadfall and
undergrowth from the 7,630 acres under its control, and 40 members of
the ski patrol have been trained to identify beetle-killed trees so they
can be targeted even before the snow has melted in the spring.

"We are still hopeful that we can prevent the infestation from
spreading, and we think we have a good chance of saving many of the
trees," says resort spokesman Matt Sugar.

In the town of Winter Park, he adds, similar measures are being financed
through a mill-levy increase approved by voters last year.

Clearing the dead timber from all the areas hit by the beetles would be
a daunting task because of the expense, the terrain and the sheer number
of trees involved, foresters say.

Another serious obstacle to intensive logging is the limited market for
the wood. Much of it is stained blue from a fungus carried by the
beetles and is thus perceived by many buyers as blemished, even though
it's considered structurally sound.

Two mills close to the current infestation, a waferboard plant in
Kremmling and a sawmill in Walden, are no longer open. Except for a few
small post-and- pole operations and cabinet- makers who covet
blue-stained wood, the only volume buyer in Colorado is the
Intermountain Resources mill in Montrose - some 300 miles away.

Henry, a weed-control consultant who heads the nonprofit Grand County
Forest Stewardship Association, suggests the dead trees be viewed not as
timber but as fuel for a wood-burning power plant like units now
operating in Nebraska, California and Minnesota.

A 50-megawatt plant, big enough to meet the electrical needs of 50,000
people, could be built for about $100 million, he estimates, and it
"would provide a viable market for 20 years for all the timber waste in
Grand, Routt and Summit counties."

The idea is one of many being considered in wildfire mitigation discussions.

The full extent of this year's infestation won't be apparent for months,
because trees attacked this summer won't turn orange until next spring.

But the scourge appears to be spreading exponentially, says Chris
Oliver, a timber management technician with the Arapaho-Roosevelt
National Forest in Granby.

"For every red one you see now," he says, "what you figure is there are
5 or 10 green ones that will be red at this time next year."

Staff writer Jack Cox can be reached at 303-820-1785 or jcox@denverpost.com.

Thursday, September 08, 2005

[puma-news] Got Cheatgrass?

It is now a good time to work on your cheatgrass! PUMA has a mower and 3
sprayers available to use. If possible you should mow down infestations
first (collecting and disposing of the seeds). Then spray a mixture of
Plateau herbicide,Seed Oil and water, also available from PUMA. The cost
will be $2 per gallon of mix if you are a dues-paying member of PUMA.
Others will pay $4 per gallon. A full sprayer (3 gallons) should cover
1/4 acre, so most people should get by with one or two fills.

Call Terry (303-443-1409) or Dan (303-442-7460) to reserve a sprayer or
the mower, and to get detailed instructions on the best way to proceed.

Dan

[puma-news] New Orleans Musician Relief

 

 

Dear Neighbors,

I am organizing this effort in conjunction with Danielle Laramie who has been a Magnolia Road resident for more than 20 years. She married Coco Robicheaux, a New Orleans musician and is helping to disperse these funds to that community. There is so much help needed everywhere in the area but this is a way you can help a small group of people directly and make a great impact.

Please donate what you can!      Parmita Pushman

 

New Orleans is not only the most seminal city in the history of American music – but one that has consistently supported a lively population of musicians who make their living playing in the city’s many clubs and around the region. These are skilled musicians who go out and play each night and come home with 50 or 100 dollars to support themselves and their family.  Some of these players number among our national treasures in blues and jazz.

 

Many of these musicians have now lost their means to make a living, not to mention their homes and in many cases, their equipment to play live gigs. They often have a slow season over the summer and relied on the fall income to make it through the year. We hope to fill the gap between the larger efforts on a national basis and the direct immediate reality of these great artists to carry on now.

 

The Leela Foundation is a non-profit organization in Boulder Colorado and through a network of people who are intimately involved with that music community we are compiling a list of musicians in need. The money will be distributed directly to the musicians on a case by case basis with no overheads or operating cost taken out or extensive paperwork for the musicians to apply. This is a labor of love and compassion.  All donations are tax-deductible.

 

Here are the ways you can help:

  • Make a donation       Send checks to:        Leela Foundation/New Orleans

                                                                                    6395 Gunpark Drive Suite A

                                                                                    Boulder CO 80301

Please be sure and include your return address for the tax-deductible receipt

 

  • Let us know about a musician in need of help
  • Donate equipment
  • Set up gigs for displaced artists

 

There will soon be a web site set up with a posting board of needs and locations at www.spiritland.com (the home of New Orleans based Coco Robicheaux). Meanwhile you can e-mail me with any offers, needs or if you would like to make a credit card donation at Parmita@whiteswanmusic.com

 

Thanks for all you love and support

Parmita Pushman and Danielle Laramie

 

 

 

 

Re: [puma-news] Missing dog

Now that Poudre has made it home safely....

(see .jpg attachment please)
-

Terry Greenberg wrote:
> Jim
>
> I am so happy for you that your dog is back--safe and sound.
>
> Terry
>
>
> At 10:17 AM 9/4/2005, James Swenson wrote:
>
>> The dog has been found.
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> ----
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 01:07:39PM -0600, James Swenson wrote:
>> > Dog missing, last seen around mm 8.4 on Magnolia today. Name is
>> Poudre.
>> > Tan colored lab/chow mix, short hair, with reddish stripe running
>> down back.
>> > About 60 pounds. Call Mike at 303-258-1001 or cell 303-887-2435.
>> >
>
>

[puma-news] FW: [nature-net] Field Trip to Shadow Canyon

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To: nature-net@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [nature-net] Field Trip to Shadow Canyon

Boulder Audubon Field Trip to Shadow Canyon
Saturday, September 10, 7-11 a.m.

Join Steve Jones for a leisurely three-mile hike in lower Shadow
Canyon to look for signs of fall, including migrating songbirds
and raptors. Meet at the South Mesa Trail parking area,
Eldorado Springs Drive 2 miles west of State Highway 93, at 7
a.m. Trip is free and open to everyone.

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Wednesday, September 07, 2005

[puma-news] Home for Cat

Is there anyone out there who would like a cat?  Indy is:
 
    about three years old
    male, neutered
    long hair, black
    thoroughly enjoys the outdoors
    GREAT mouser
    good with dogs and horses
 
We are moving and if we think unselfishly, it is best to leave him up here where he enjoys life so much.  He is an outdoor cat but occasionally will come in at night.  In his case, we had to choose quality of life over quantity of life.
 
If you are interested, please call Lorie or Hank @ 303/440-7070.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Monday, September 05, 2005

[puma-news] Winter Survival Guide

The State of Montana (Departments of Disaster & Emergency Services &
Transportation {MDT}) published a "Winter Survival Handbook". It's a free
download (Adobe Acrobat PDF file) that's available at
http://tinyurl.com/84rns
It's fairly basic, but it always helps to get the basics right.
It prints on 26 letter sized pages (booklet style).

John,

~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA

800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
303.440.0147 (fax)

[puma-news] Fire Mitigation Grant Meeting - Tuesday, September 6th

Hello

And the date is September 6, tomorrow, September 6th at 6:30 PM.

This is to remind everyone that there is a meeting to go over the CWPP
(Community Wildlife Protection Plan) that we will attach to a proposed
grant to help us accomplish fire mitigation to protect our homes better.

The meeting is at my home at 943 Pine Glade Road. My phone number is
303-443-1409. We hope to see as many of you as possible. Cory Secher of
the Colorado State Forestry will be here as well as Chad Julian of Boulder
County Parks and Open Space. It will be at 6:30 PM but if you come
later--that will be fine.

Find more information at http://www.puma-net.org/FireGrant/FireGrant2006.htm

We look forward to seein you.

Terry

[puma-news] Fire Mitigation Grant Meeting

Hello

This is to remind everyone that there is a meeting to go over the CWPP
(Community Wildlife Protection Plan) that we will attach to a proposed
grant to help us accomplish fire mitigation to protect our homes better.

The meeting is at my home at 943 Pine Glade Road. My phone number is
303-443-1409. We hope to see as many of you as possible. Cory Secher of
the Colorado State Forestry will be here as well as Chad Julian of Boulder
County Parks and Open Space. It will be at 6:30 PM but if you come
later--that will be fine.

Find more information at http://www.puma-net.org/FireGrant/FireGrant2006.htm

We look forward to seein you.

Terry

[puma-news] Free wood for the cutting.

My neighbor has some pine, fur and spruce trees he would like cut down.  If any one is interested in the wood for the cutting, contact me.  All of the trees are within 50 to 100 feet from the driveway.  This property is next to ours at 2440 Magnolia.
 
Jerry Griess
jerrygriess@mric.net