Wednesday, June 29, 2005

Re: [puma-news] motorcycle noise, DIA and deja vu all over again

Hi Fay:

Here is the ordinance...most recent that I am aware of:

http://www.co.boulder.co.us/bocc/Ordinances/noise.htm

I'm sure that what you & the community are experiencing far exceeds the limits noted in the ordinance.  Only one way to find out for sure...

As we discussed last time this came up...it would be very useful to measure the noise.  Setting up the right time to be in the right place could be tricky.  So...how about I lend you a sound level meter and show you how to use it?

Peace & quiet,
Norman


Fay Benson wrote:
Hello Norman and everyone, In the past week, I have called the Boulder Co. Sheriff twice about the motorcycles.  The first time was last Thursday about 2 Kawasaki's without licenses.  One green with a number 357 on a big handle bar shield and a blue one with 202 on a similar shield.  I don't believe they (Officer Chris Norcia and another officer)found them.  They were on Pine Glade and the officers happened to both be in the area during their shift change over. Officer Norcia ticketed a dune buggy the previous day at Gross Res., so he was willing to pursue them. This afternoon I called about an amazingly loud red bike (white helmet) that tore down and back up Pine Glade within 3 minutes.  I just talked at length with Officer Robinson who did find this bike.  Since he had a license (couldn't see from my house one way or the other) and was on a road - Magnolia - and was only going 35, he could do nothing.  He told me there was no noise ordinance in Boulder County.  When I questioned him about that in regard to the posting here, he admitted there was an ordinance, but it doesn't apply to vehicles.  So basically, if it has a license, it can drive as fast and as loud as it wants on Pine Glade, etc.  I told him about this posting and mentioned a decibel level and he admitted he didn't know the ordinance and would look into it.  His position shifted throughout our conversation but I couldn't pin him down without having hard facts myself. Also, he doesn't think we have a speed limit for sure - but will hopefully look into it.  (He isn't well versed on laws for unincorporated areas and is apparently one of the officers assigned to us.) If you know the ordinance, please cite the number or quote it for us please so we know where we stand - even if the officer doesn't.  This bike was so loud, I had time to run from the back of the house all the way outside to get a look at him before he passed by.  How do we get the decibel measurements? Has anyone else been calling in about the bikes?  If I am the only one, they will soon ignore me, even though the calls are legitimate. Thanks, Fay Benson Pine Glade Rd.   -----Original Message----- From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org [mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:06 AM To: Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman Cc: Fay Benson; 'PUMA News' Subject: Re: [puma-news] motorcycle noise, DIA and deja vu all over again  Hi Paul,  A better response to your question about noise ordinances:  Boulder County does in fact have noise pollution regulations that apply  (here) to motorcycles, barking dogs, power tools, etc.  In regard to  motorcycles...a specific decibel limit is stated.  And so...I'd be happy  to assist in taking measurements that could be performed in a low  profile manner.  It's one thing to make a nuisance complaint, it's a far better thing to  relate actual data to existing laws.  Makes for a much better case.  Norman Aspen Meadows  Oval Window Audio/Norman Lederman wrote:    
-----Original Message----- From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org [mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Paul DeLong Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:12 PM To: 'Scott C. Reuman'; 'PUMA News' Subject: RE: [puma-news] DIA and deja vu all over again  Any chance PUMA can help acquire a noise ordinance to keep down the  noise from motorcycles etc that frequent our neighborhoods especially in the Summer months?  Paul DeLong Accuer, Inc. 1942 Broadway, Ste. 208 Boulder, CO 80302 Ph 303-323-4296 x4 Fax 303-323-4297 Cell 303-859-0052 www.accuer.com     -----Original Message----- From: owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org [mailto:owner-puma-news@www.puma-net.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. Reuman Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:46 PM To: PUMA News Subject: [puma-news] DIA and deja vu all over again  I thought some of you might remember the days of DIA and jet noise  and possibly be interested in this information:  Hi Nature Lovers,  I hope you have been enjoying your Sunday in peaceful, quiet Boulder  --  ooops, quiet except for the virtually nonstop drone of tow planes pulling gliders and circling small planes.  If you are bothered by the airplane noise,  you should know that the City of Boulder is currently conducting an Airport Master Plan Update which will govern issues at the Boulder Municipal Airport for the next ten years or so.  So NOW IS THE TIME.  You can learn more by visiting the Quiet Sky Society website at http://quietsky.org/ and the City of Boulder Municipal Airport site at http://www.ci.boulder.co.us/airport/noise_abatement.htm.  If you want to stay informed and know the meeting schedule for reviewing the plan, join the Quiet Sky mail list.  We promise not to bombard you with e-mails, but will keep you posted on important developments.  And if you want to do more - e.g., show up at meetings as a member or supporter of the Quiet Sky Society, you can e-mail me (gloveman ** ameritech.net or Jim Adams (jptadams ** comcast.net) and we will put you on the more active list.  (** use @)  Thanks for listening.  Gail    ****************************** Scott Campbell Reuman Artist/Writer Conundrum Designs, Inc. Nederland, CO http://www.conundrumdesigns.com scottreuman@conundrumdesigns.com          
     

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