[puma-news] Haunted House returns

In reply to the folks who have been asking, yes, there will be a haunted
house from 6 PM - 9 PM at 18 Meadowland Court on Halloween night....

RE: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Bentz [mailto:abentz@ACSD14.K12.CO.US]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:03 AM
To: puma-news@puma-net.org; jcarder@topline-charts.com
Subject: Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

John

I split 50/50 on this.

 

The Onion:

The Onion isn't trying to scam you or fool you so, "yes, I agree" let it have its fun.

 

Mail:

I get too much junk mail that tries to "Look Official".  They try to misrepresent to the point where I would say its an attempted scam.  It annoys me greatly.  So I differ with you on this one.

 

Just one opinion

Allen

 

I agree that mailers that try to misrepresent themselves should be prosecuted. There are TONs of laws on the books (e.g., mail fraud) that would allow a prosecutor to do that right now. What the government has done is to specify that certain words (Social Security) are not to be used, at all.

 

To quote H.L. Mencken:

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.

 

When the Federal Register is over 70,000 pages, and all of it has the force of law, you have to wonder whether we might have enough laws on the books already.

 

Where you find the laws most numerous, there you will find also the greatest injustice.
~ Arcesilaus

 

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
  ~ Thomas Jefferson

I'm sure I'm over-reacting.

 

John

Re: [puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

John

I split 50/50 on this.

 

The Onion:

The Onion isn't trying to scam you or fool you so, "yes, I agree" let it have its fun.

 

Mail:

I get too much junk mail that tries to "Look Official".  They try to misrepresent to the point where I would say its an attempted scam.  It annoys me greatly.  So I differ with you on this one.

 

Just one opinion

Allen

 

 

 

 

 

Allen W. Bentz
Programmer
Adams County Sch. Dist. 14
303.853.3226
abentz@acsd14.k12.co.us

>>> "John Carder" <jcarder@topline-charts.com> 10/26/2005 1:27:47 PM >>>

Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you'll probably be shocked by
the latest from Washington:

They've decided that they "own" certain words.

1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!

2)  The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.

I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.

The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.

    You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
    www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.

John,

  ~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO  80306-2340  USA

800.347.0157  (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157  (voice)
303.440.0147  (fax)

[puma-news] We don't need no steekin' First Amendment

Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you'll probably be shocked by
the latest from Washington:

They've decided that they "own" certain words.

1) The United Seniors Association has been fined $500,000 for the use of the
words "Social Security" on an envelope, and this fine has been upheld by the
Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals!

2) The White House is also taking action against "The Onion" satirical
newspaper for using the Presidential Seal in its parodies.

I'm a libertarian, and I find these two stories to resemble something from
Alice in Wonderland, or George Orwell, not the US that I learned about in
school.

The government's justification is that the use of certain "official words"
and "symbols" could confuse people about the official positions of the
government, or cause them to ignore communications from the government
agencies. Anyone who believes that the United Seniors Association or The
Onion are official government agencies is not going to be able to function
on their own. The irony of the government trying to protect itself from
satire in The Onion, by arguing that it is trying to protect the citizens is
more than even Orwell considered.

You've probably got lots of other places to learn about this, but I
expect that
www.downsizedc.org will have a bit to say.

John,

~ the chart guy

John Carder, CMT
Topline Investment Graphics
Where your chart dreams come true!

www.topline-charts.com or www.chartguy.com

PO Box 2340
Boulder, CO 80306-2340 USA

800.347.0157 (toll-free in the USA)
303.440.0157 (voice)
303.440.0147 (fax)

[puma-news] Next meeting?

Hi All,

Is there going to be a meeting in November (11/3) as discussed a little
while ago? If so, any location yet?

George

[puma-news] Fwd: Important! Fair Elections Petition

I am forwarding this on, as it is an issue I am very concerned about.
If you don't like signing petitions, you can go to the website just to
read more about the new House Bill, and then call or write your Rep.

Begin forwarded message:

<excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Subject:
</color>Important! Fair Elections Petition

</fontfamily></bold>

Hi Folks

I don't usually spam folks anymore about political things, but this one

seems simple and so effects our rights for have our vote counted as it
was

intended, the root of a democratic society. It's very easy to sign the

petition - the link goes straight to the site. If you see fit, please
pass

this one on.

Naomi

This petition is for a national law giving us voter verified paper
ballots

by 2006. Many of our current voting machines are DRE's (Direct
Recording

Electronic systems) which do not produce a record of individual votes
at

all. Other systems have optical scan ballots, but only the vote total

produced by the ballot scanning software is ever counted. The GAO
continues

to warn that we are too reliant on voting software and that errors can

become certified election results.

HB550 would require that ballots be the vote of record upon which we
base

our election results. The petition's website is:

http://www.icountcoalition.org/ .

Please let your voice be heard in Washington by signing this petition,
and

forwarding the link. People of all political affiliations are
interested in

this bill. After all, nothing is more reflexive to the American
psyche than

counting everyone's vote.

Thank you for helping to make verifiable elections a reality!

--

----

"Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of

strength that will endure

as long as life lasts." --Rachel Carson

</excerpt>

RE: [puma-news] Found Puppy

That is phenomenal news! All our hearts have been going out to Cori, Tom and
their 12-week old puppy. What a great story of survival, and being watched
over & protected.

Thanks for the great start to the day!

-D

>From: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>Reply-To: Terry Greenberg <Terry.Greenberg@colorado.edu>
>To: PUMA Mailing Listna <puma-news@puma-net.org>
>Subject: [puma-news] Found Puppy
>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:52:07 -0600
>
>Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
>permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
>available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
>made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
>a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
>since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.
>
>Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!
>
>Terry
>

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[puma-news] Found Puppy

Apparently homeowners on Cumberland Gap road had a small opening that
permitted what they thought to be a fox into their garage to munch the
available dog food -- when the puppy was discovered and inquiries
made......a neighbor said, " I just received an email about someone losing
a puppy -- lets give them a call." Cori and Tom are extremely grateful
since their puppy survived the snowstorm last Sunday.

Thanks to the alert--the puppy was found. Yay!!

Terry

[puma-news] Re: remember to vote

Dear Pumitas y Pumitos,

Please remember to vote in the November 1 election. Because this is an odd
year and the ballot issues puzzling, please vote and pay careful attention
to these issues. The crux of Referenda C&D is funding for health, education
and transportation. Please mail in your ballots by the deadline, November 1.

Thanks for your consideration....

Cheers,

Suzanne MacAulay

Suzanne P. MacAulay, Ph.D.
60 Aspen Grove Court MSR
Nederland, Colorado 80466-9636
USA
Ph: (303) 447-8176
Email: smacaulay1@earthlink.net
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world.
Indeed it's the only thing that ever has."

Margaret Mead

Re: [puma-news] Anyone See A Puppy?

I hope he's ok.  I'll let you know if I see him.  Let us know what happens.  Marielle

[puma-news] Anyone See A Puppy?

Hi PUMA People and friends (tell them)

I'm passing a message about a missing puppy so please check it out. Thanks.

Terry

>From: "Tom Boogaard" <tombo@mric.net>
>Date: October 10, 2005 10:33:10 AM MDT
>To: <cchapman@boulder.swri.edu>, <ychapman@mric.net>
>Cc: "Cori Boogaard" <Coriboo@mric.net>
>Subject: Missing Puppy Lazy Z
>
>Greetings,
>
>Thank you for posting this on the Puma site on our behalf. The puppy below
>is a 12 week old Keeshound.(He may be mistaken for a Chow). He's gray and
>black and weighs approx. 12 lbs. He had a green checkered collar on
>however, he did not have a nametag yet. He would come when you say "Come
>here" and we we're calling him 'Puck' (From Midsummer's Night Dream).
>
>He was last seen late on Saturday afternoon at around 3:30-4:00pm. He had
>snuck out a side door. Our neighbors had several people and dogs at there
>home and we believe that he may have wandered towards the other people and
>dogs along the street and a hiker may have picked him up. We have had a
>search party out looking for him to no avail and have also put up signs on
>our road and in Nederland.
>
>Please call us if you have any information
>Tom & Cori Tel: 303-642-0882
>Cori Cell: 720-480-1460
>
>Thank you!!!
>
>
>tombo@mric.net

[puma-news] Train Show

The Boulder Model Railroad Club is having their annual train show this
Saturday and Sunday, October 15th and 16th.

It will be held at the Southern Hills Middle School, which is at 1500 Knox
Drive in Table Mesa. For details and a map see:

http://bcn.boulder.co.us/recreation/bmrc/bmrcshow2005.html

-Loren

[puma-news] free monitor filter screen

We are giving away a monitor screen for a 15" CRT type computer
monitor. It is by 3M and is supposed to reduce glare on, and radiation
from the monitor. We had it on our monitor until we got an LCD type.

George

RE: [puma-news] Snowplowing

That's great! Remember to take good care of whoever it is, so they'll come
back next year <g>.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Joy Om [mailto:joyom@indra.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 7:39 PM
To: waltressa-john@att.net
Cc: PUMA News; PUMA
Subject: Re: [puma-news] Snowplowing

John and Wally and other Pumites,
I located a snowplow company who will come over here.
Mark at Sno-busters 303 258-3777. He came by and gave me an estimate.
He will be doing 2 houses here on Pine Glade so far - from Coal Creek I
believe.
Joy

waltressa-john@att.net wrote:

>I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since
Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses?
If so, we are interested, too.
>
>Thanks, John and Wally
>
>
>
>

[puma-news] free firewood

I have a large, dry, mostly cut up tree if someone would
like it for firewood and can come and get it.
Joy 303 258-0717

Re: [puma-news] Snowplowing

John and Wally and other Pumites,
I located a snowplow company who will come over here.
Mark at Sno-busters 303 258-3777. He came by and gave me an estimate.
He will be doing 2 houses here on Pine Glade so far - from Coal Creek I
believe.
Joy

waltressa-john@att.net wrote:

>I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we are interested, too.
>
>Thanks, John and Wally
>
>
>
>

[puma-news] Anyone have a Water Trough for Sale?

Hello

My horse's water trough has developed yet another leak. I repair it as
well as I can but. . . . .

Does anyone have a water trough for sale? Please let me know via e-mail or
call at 303-443-1409.

Terry

[puma-news] Please Vote Yes on Ballot 5A!

Dear Neighbors,
If you are in the library district (you got a yellow postcard recently if
you are), you will have a chance to vote on Ballot Issue 5A. This issue
would enable Nederland Community Library to collect the full amount of
taxes that we voters overwhelmingly approved in 2002.

The community library has grown and increased its services to the
community and surrounding areas, but does need the full allotment of taxes
that approval of Ballot 5A would garner in order to cover its operating
expenses.

I have been involved in the library on a volunteer basis as well as a
patron. We are fortunate to now have a staffed library with great
resources for kids, young adults, adults and seniors - let's do what we
can to keep that going!

Please show your support of the library by voting yes for ballot issue 5A
and encouraging everyone else you know to do the same! Remember that this
election is mail-in only, so send your ballot in by October 27th to be
sure your vote will count.

If you have questions about the initiative I'd be happy to try and answer
them.

Thanks for your support,
Susie Gallaudet
881 Pine Glade Rd.
303-258-0939

RE: [puma-news] Snowplowing

I don't know of anyone doing plowing for hire. Here's why:

Most services like Sugarloaf don't last very long. The economics just aren't
there. You have an expensive, complex piece of equipment that you are only
using a small amount of time. It has to have a big engine, so it uses a lot
of fuel. When you're using it, it's typically during the worst conditions
(causing breakdowns, which are expensive to fix, and mean you can't charge
for plowing that you can't do). So, you're trying to get enough customers to
pay for that expensive truck and plow, and its maintenance. If you get
enough customers to make a go of it, along comes a big storm. In a big
storm, it takes longer to plow each customer, and what was just enough
customers is now too many! And most of those customers will be upset,
because they want to be plowed first.

This will be the twenty-second winter that I've plowed my 0.7 mile driveway
on Porter Ranch. I also plow HCFD Station #4 and my mother's drive. That's
more than I want to plow, already. I've worn out two plows and one truck
over the years (I'm on my second truck and third plow). In other words, I've
paid a bit of fools' tax, learning the ropes. If someone wants to get a plow
for themselves, I'd be more than happy to share what I've learned, and point
them in the right direction.

John Carder

-----Original Message-----
From: waltressa-john@att.net [mailto:waltressa-john@att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:03 AM
To: PUMA News; PUMA
Subject: [puma-news] Snowplowing

I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf
is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we
are interested, too.

Thanks, John and Wally

[puma-news] Snowplowing

I seem to remember someone asking for snowplowing resources, since Sugarloaf is no longer doing that in this area. Were there any responses? If so, we are interested, too.

Thanks, John and Wally